Re: Aether is the empty space in which the Universe sits

From: David Thomson (_at_)
Date: 07/29/04


Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 19:01:10 -0500


"FrediFizzx" <fredifizzx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2mqir3Fpl7blU1@uni-berlin.de...
> How convenient that you don't remember the reference.

I did click on the links you gave. Nothing came up. It might have been a
network problem as other pages didn't come up at that time.

> Set up neutron decay as a scattering problem.

Why would you set up a neutron decay as a scattering problem? A decaying
neutron is not scattering. I have no problem quantifying the decay itself.
You're asking to quantify the lifetime of the neutron before it decays.
Unless you can show the neutron as having a limited amount of "fuel" or a
certain number of spins, you can't produce an equation that will predict the
life span of a given free neutron.

> Besides the mean lifetime prediction, the SM can also give the
> prediction for the electron energy distribution and it is real close to
> experimental results.

Are you trying to "wow" me with facts, or what? Let's leave out the
electron and neutrino energy distributions for now; unless you can show they
have something specific to do with calculating the neutron life span.

> Guess what? Almost all experimental evidence is an average of statistical
sampling.

Guess what? My theory is entirely discrete. I'm only interested in
quantifying real physical processes. The equations used for calculating the
mean neutron lifespan could just as easily apply to stock analysis or grade
point averages. It's purely mathematical and you have to have empirical
data to make it work. You can't use the equation for calculating the mean
life span of a neutron to predict the actual life span of any given neutron.

This is one of those points that sets my theory apart from the Standard
Model. Everything in the Aether Physics Model is real and pertains to
actual physical processes and has nothing to do with data fitting.

I understand that actual measurements often involve averaging the acquired
data. But this is always due to artifacts of the measuring equipment, the
scientist, or the environment, not the physics themselves. Quantum
processes are inherently discrete. The mass of the electron is always the
same, as is its angular momentum, charge, and spin.

> Do you really think an experimenter is
> going to rely on just one sample? No, they are going to do the experiment
> many times. Do you think the get exactly the same data results every
time?

There is only one mass for the electron. Having errors in measurement is a
human thing and this produces several different electron masses until the
errors are worked out. But there are many different actual neutron life
spans. In this case the decay variation is an artifact of nature, not the
experiment. We can write equations that work with just one electron mass,
even though errors were sometimes made in measuring the electron mass. But
we can't write an equation to predict the neutron life span because there is
no way to quantify, yet, all the dynamic factors contributing to the free
neutron decay.

> | Don't be silly. The process of decay is a real process. Being able to
> | predict the exact time of decay just isn't possible, unless you do
something
> | to force the decay process.
>
> You are the one being silly. Why do you think the probabilistic decay of
a
> free neutron is not *real* physics?

Because probability theory is mathematical, not physical. Real physics is
about real measurements of real processes that can be discretely quantified.
Physics is about reality, not probabilities. Math can handle probabilities,
but not physics. The minute probabilities are brought into physics, we're
talking about numerology and gambling.

I wouldn't have a problem with bringing metaphysics into physics, if the
metaphysics could be quantified at some higher level. For example, the
dimensions of mass, length, frequency, and charge are metaphysical. They
are not real objects, but they lead to the manifestation of real objects.
The dimensions are "first principles" that become measurements when a value
is assigned to the dimension, and then the measurement becomes a unit when
combined with other measurements. The units become forces, charge, angular
momentum, velocity, and other characteristics of the physical world. The
angular momentum then becomes atoms, and the atoms become molecules. So the
metaphysical dimensions ultimately result in physical quantification.

Statistics do not quantify the actual cause of the data.

> In a sampling of a large number of free neutrons, the SM can predict a
mean
> lifetime that matches experiment. If you can't do that, then your theory
> needs work until you can.

Okay, here is my equation that matches experiment.

n.l = n.f + 11min

where n.l is the neutron lifespan and n.f is the moment the neutron becomes
a free neutron. This equation has been scientifically shown to produce the
life span of the neutron in the majority of cases.

Look closely at your statement but with variable X replacing "free
neutrons", "In a sampling of a large number of X, the SM can predict a mean
lifetime that matches experiment."

The SM must therefore also predict the 3 point shooting average for Kobe
Bryant based on his past shooting record and the winning lottery numbers for
tonight's drawing, once we have the numbers to analyze. Statistics is not
physics. It's analysis.

Dave



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