Re: Four More Years of Murder

From: lensman1955 (lensman1955_at_hotmail.com)
Date: 07/29/04 

Date: 29 Jul 2004 05:25:12 -0700

Phat Albert Camus <master@mason.snuh> wrote in message news:<Xns953489DB39352spamspamsnuhspam33@207.14.113.17>...
> lensman1955@hotmail.com (lensman1955) wrote in
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> > The Foole and His Monkey Soon Partied <master@mason.snuh> wrote in
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> >> lensman1955@hotmail.com (lensman1955) wrote in
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> >> >> > > > > lensman1955@hotmail.com (lensman1955) wrote in
> >> >> > > > > news:633b063b.0407210158.4704218d@posting.google.com:
> >> >> > > > >> Again, your silly fantasy scenarios do you very little by
> >> >> > > > >> way of
> >> >> > > > > supporting your claims.
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > Nope. These are the views of every engineering authority
> >> >> > > > that we've
> >> >> seen
> >> >> so
> >> >> > > > far.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Views on building performance.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > > Then we have these crackheads who hang around websites like
> www.bedoper.com,
> >> >> > > > saying that the engineers' views are "silly fantasies."
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > You got that correct. You do view bedoper. You promote it way
> >> >> > > to much, infact more than the ASCE page. You do also claim
> >> >> > > such "silly fantasies" when
> >> >> > > you state that this report proves a 757 did infact hit the
> >> >> > > Pentagon.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > The Weathermen on the TEEVEE claimed scattered showers the
> >> >> > > other night, we ended up getting a night with wind driven
> >> >> > > downpours and serious
> >> >> > flooding.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Getting a little desperate? Comparing weather forecasting, a
> >> >> > rather
> inexact
> >> >> > science, with the investigation of a plane crash? Why weather
> forecasting
> >> >> > ... why not the cure for cancer? Pick something really
> >> >> > dramatic.
> >> >>
> >> >> Huh? Both arive at conclusions from raw data, moron.
> >> >
> >> > One arrives at conclusions based on raw data from a finished event.
> >> > The other arrives at predictions based on raw data that's still
> >> > subject to outside influences and pressures.
> >> >
> >> > Apples / Oranges (Maybe we should make a new acronym; A/O)
> >>
> >> You still haven't told me why you bailed on the Pentagon/911 threads.
> >
> > I'd said my piece, I didn't have anything else to say. If I see
> > something worth commenting on, I'll post.
>
> That's funny, because I gave you some rather juicy facts to chew on.
> Instead you dropped the thread.
>
> You took the cowards route.

I asked (re; Pentagon) what people expected the wings to do? Drop off
outside the building a la the James Bond movie "Live and Let Die" or
leave little wing shaped holes in reinforced granite. I never got an
answer, I was just told I was being stupid for thinking the wings
could crumble up and be dragged into the building.

In regards to the Towers. Someone said the puffs of debris shooting
out of the floors as they collapsed was "proof" the Towers were
brought down by "controlled demolition." I've seen quite a few
controlled demolitions and if this is true it's the first time I've
seen the explosions go off DURING the collapse of the building in
question.

Also, I said I didn't believe the Towers tilted past their center of
gravity and was told they "continued to tilt" which "proves" they
moved past their center of gravity and should have toppled. Well, it
doesn't really matter in that incidence whether the Towers fell due to
the plane impact/fire or controlled demolition. If they Towers had
shifted past their center of gravity, they would have toppled over no
matter what caused the collapse. The simple fact that they DIDN'T
topple over shows that they DIDN'T move past their center of gravity.
The simple fact that some people couldn't grasp this simple aspect of
the law of gravity showed me that they weren't interesting in having a
legitimate discussion, but only in having everybody agree with them
that there was an "evil Government conspiracy" involved in the Towers
collapse!

As Mark Twain once observed; "Never try to teach a pig to whistle, it
wastes your time and annoys the pig." I got tired of wasting my time.
So I left. I may pop back into this or a similar thread at some point,
but not right now. If you consider that "winning," Godspeed.

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