Re: Sloppy Pentagon Investigation was Re: Four More Years of Murder

From: Tupac Chopra (master_at_mason.snuh)
Date: 08/03/04 

Date: 3 Aug 2004 09:07:54 GMT

"Ralph Nesbitt" <ralph-nesbitt@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:dWCPc.1753$rg4.1018@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com:

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> "George Ringo John Paul Jonestown Massacre" <master@mason.snuh> wrote
> in message news:Xns95381597AE00Dspamspamsnuhspam33@207.14.113.17...
>> "Ralph Nesbitt" <ralph-nesbitt@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
>> news:aZZOc.2458$g55.1079@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com:
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>> >
>> > "Phat Albert Camus" <master@mason.snuh> wrote in message
>> > news:Xns9536C7BFBBB8Fspamspamsnuhspam33@207.14.113.17...
>> >> Laurence Doering <ljd@bcpl.net> wrote in
>> >> news:2mvig1Fr5vj3U1@uni-berlin.de:
>> >>
>> >> > On 30 Jul 2004 03:07:59 -0700, lensman1955
>> >> > <lensman1955@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> Phat Albert Camus <master@mason.snuh> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:<Xns9535B71BB265Fspamspamsnuhspam33@207.14.113.17>...
>> >> >>> lensman1955@hotmail.com (lensman1955) wrote in
>> >> >>> news:633b063b.0407290425.5f6b5288@posting.google.com:
>> >> >>> > I asked (re; Pentagon) what people expected the wings to do?
>> >> >>> > Drop off outside the building a la the James Bond movie
>> >> >>> > "Live and Let Die" or leave little wing shaped holes in
>> >> >>> > reinforced granite.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> No, that is your stock reply. It is the stock reply of many
>> >> >>> Pentagon story defenders. Almost a trademark of the debunker
>> >> >>> who has exhausted his limited bag of tricks.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> > I never got an
>> >> >>> > answer, I was just told I was being stupid for thinking the
>> >> >>> > wings could crumble up and be dragged into the building.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Can you explain the physics of these wings disappearing into
>> >> >>> this tiny hole? It seems to me, if they struck the wall, the
>> >> >>> last thing they could possibly do is "crumble up and be
>> >> >>> dragged inside the building".
>> >> >>
>> >> >> This is my understanding, and I'll type slowly so you can
>> >> >> follow along. (Yes, that was deliberate.)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The nose of the plane punches a hole in the wall. As the base
>> >> >> of the wings reaches the wall, there's more surface area and
>> >> >> less structural strength to the wings than there is to the nose
>> >> >> so the wings are unable to punch through the wall. Taking the
>> >> >> path of least resistance, they crumble back into the fuselage
>> >> >> and are dragged into the hole.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If there's something wrong with that idea, let me know what it
>> >> >> is and what you think _should_ have happened to the wings.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > The problem with the idea of the wings "crumbling back into the
>> >> > fuselage" is that it accepts at face value the "No 757 Hit The
>> >> > Pentagon, You Idiot" peoples' claim that the hole in the
>> >> > Pentagon's exterior wall was relatively small.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> As evidenced by the pictures, and even the ASCE report, I believe.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > In fact, the hole in the Pentagon's outer wall was about 120
>> >> > feet wide.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> That is false, by any stretch of the imagination.
>> >>
>> >> The circular hole was at most, 16 feet or so wide. The damage to
>> >> the face of the Pentagon cannot be properly termed a hole at all.
>> >> The columns are still extant. Perhaps the width of the damage was
>> >> 120 feet. The hole was certainly not 120 feet wide.
>> >>
>> >> But I would love to see some pictures supporting your claim, and
>> >> disproving mine.
>> >>
>> >> Are you really this misinformed, or are you just lying?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> A simple glance at the following photo reveals the falsehood in
>> >> your statement. Which tends to cast doubt on the rest of your
>> >> analysis.
>> >>
>> >> http://www.questionsquestions.net/docs04/bugle/images2/bugle4.jpg
>> >>
>> > The hole is to the left of center of the above referenced Pic which
>> > is obscured by smoke in the pic.
>>
>>
>> There is no 120-foot hole anywhere in any Pentagon photo. Please
>> clarify what you are trying to say, here.
>>
> You will never admit such a hole existed & will go to no end to
> obsifusicate the issue.

Ralph. People have eyes. I have pictures.

No 120-Foot Hole In The Pentagon
http://www.questionsquestions.net/docs04/bugle/images2/bugle4.jpg

No 757 Hit The Pentagon
http://www.bedoper.com/eastman

> Ralph Nesbitt
> Professional FD/CFR/ARFF Type Posting From ADA 

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