Re: 'APPROACH ASTROLOGY WITH AN OPEN MIND'

From: Miami Vibe (nobody_at_invalid.uk)
Date: 08/03/04 

Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 09:45:56 -0500

3year old post? Asstrology - wrong group, man
Don't post this crap in sci.physics.
Put it on the walls of yer lu.

"Dr. Jai Maharaj" <usenet@mantra.com> wrote in message
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> 'Approach astrology with an open mind'
>
> The Hindu
> Friday, April 20, 2001
>
> Ms. Gayatri Devi Vasudev, Editor, The Astrological
> Magazine, Bangalore writes:
>
> This refers to your Science Correspondent's report (April
> 19) about some scientists being unnecessarily worked up
> over Prof. Hari Gautam's statement that Sir C.V. Raman
> had referred to astrology as science and Prof. S.
> Ramaseshan, nephew of Sir C.V. Raman, saying that the
> Nobel laureate ''did not believe in astrology at all and
> considered it an irrational subject.'' I would like to
> issue a clarification on both points.
>
> With due deference to Sir C.V. Raman's so-called lack of
> belief, one should differentiate opinions from facts. The
> scientist was entitled to his personal opinion on
> astrology or any other subject under the Sun and it is
> nobody's business. That Sir Raman did not believe in
> astrology, as claimed by his nephew, is no argument
> against it if he had not made a study of jyotisha
> systematically.
>
> The nephew in question may have been a close associate
> but that does not necessarily imply that he was privy to
> every single personal detail of Sir Raman's private life.
> Nor can the nephew's statement that the scientist's
> ''biography published by the Indian Academy of Sciences
> clearly documented the fact that he was not at all
> superstitious and despised ritual'' be connected with
> astrology and its scientific nature. Almost everyone
> knows that biographies are many times sanitised versions
> of the lives of the men they seek to portray in a
> particular mould and therefore, many details that may not
> conform to the portrait they want to paint, are
> ruthlessly scissored.
>
> Srinivasa Ramanujan's biography published in India has
> cleverly omitted mention of the mathematician's reverence
> for the Goddess of Namakkal how many of formulae were
> revealed to him by Her in his dreams. These details are
> recounted in detail in his biography published from
> England.
>
> Likewise, Nehru's Letters to His Sister published by
> Faber and Faber, London, carries his clear instructions
> for getting Rajiv Gandhi's horoscope, taking extra care
> to emphasise that the war time difference should be
> noted. But this same book published by the Publications
> Division, Government of India, omits the letter dated 29-
> 8-1944, in its anxiety to preserve Nehru's ''secular''
> image.
>
> It should interest your readers to learn that Mrs. C.V.
> Raman was a regular visitor of my own revered father, the
> late Dr. B.V. Raman, whose name today is synonymous with
> jyotisha or astrology not only in our own country but the
> world over, and would consult him on Sir Raman's chart on
> his behalf. I shall quote from Dr. B.V. Raman's
> autobiography ''My Experiences in Astrology'', page 315,
> published by UBS Publishers' Distributors Ltd. when he
> describes how the lady first came to him in the 1930s
> escorted by Mr. A.S.P. Ayyar, a well-known author, legal
> luminary and judicial figure of those days.
>
> ''I had a surprising experience one day at my office,
> which was situated a few yards away from my residence. A
> middle-aged person dressed in a three-piece suit,
> accompanied by an elderly lady walked into my room. The
> gentleman had a distinguished appearance. Introducing
> himself the gentleman said: 'I am A.S.P. Ayyar, District
> Judge, Ramnad, and the lady is Mrs. Lokasundari Raman,
> wife of Sir C.V. Raman. I have heard much about you. I am
> also a reader of your magazine and some of the
> predictions you have made on the war are amazing. I had
> my own reservations about astrology and had often thought
> that it encouraged inactivity and sapped one's urge to
> work. The lady has some problems pertaining to her
> family.'
>
> ''Taking leave of me, he said, 'Lokasundari Raman has
> some domestic problems and she will see you again
> shortly.'.''
>
> It was not just once that the lady consulted Dr. B.V.
> Raman on the horoscope of her husband. The nephew should
> be a little more restrained and check on his facts in
> future.
>
> The statement signed by the scientists demanding that the
> UGC Chairman must quit for his support to astrology
> smacks of authoritarianism and feudal thinking. My simple
> question, having been a student of jyotisha for nearly 30
> years working under Dr. B.V. Raman, to these scientists
> is: have they studied astrology to be in a position to
> dismiss it? Why have they put their scientific temper to
> sleep in attacking astrology hysterically, behaving like
> fanatic fundamentalists instead of approaching the
> subject with an open mind? No one who has not studied
> astrology can arrogate to himself the role of judge, as
> these ''scientists'' of India are doing.
>
> It is deplorable and pathetic that these men of
> ''science'' are behaving like the Nazi scientists who
> branded Einstein's theories as Jewish physics and made a
> bonfire of his papers simply because their experimental
> physics could not accommodate Einstein's theories of
> relativity. We can only paraphrase what Einstein said
> then: ''were astrology wrong, one professor would have
> been quite enough!''
>
> More at:
> http://www.hinduonnet.com/2001/04/20/stories/0220000z.htm
>
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