Re: Aether is the empty space in which the Universe sits

From: Ole D. Rughede (ole.rughede_at_privat.dk)
Date: 08/22/04 

Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 14:46:05 +0200

"N:dlzc D:aol T:com (dlzc)" <N: dlzc1 D:cox T:net@nospam.com> skrev i en
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> Dear FrediFizzx:
>
> "FrediFizzx" <fredifizzx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:2oqk6aFdfn5vU2@uni-berlin.de...
> > "Robert J. Kolker" <robert_kolker@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:S%TVc.51303$mD.24410@attbi_s02...
> > |
> > |
> > | Cecil Moore wrote:
> > |
> > | > Michelson-Morley experiment gives strong experimental support
> > | > to the special theory of relativity, and is often called the
most
> > | > significant 'negative-result' experiment ever performed."
> > |
> > | I beg to differ. If the aether had been as M and M supposed (a
> > | visco-elastic medium) the interference fringes would have been
> > | observed.
> > | So either there is no aether, or aether is not as M and M supposed
> > | it to be. They made a prediction, based on the nature of the
Aether
> > | they assumed. The experiment turned out different. Assuming their
> > | instrument was sound, their assumption was wrong. If aether
exists,
> > | it is not what they thought it to be.
> > |
> > | There are more general reasons for not accepting the visco-elastic
> > | aether of M and M. Not the least of which is there are no
manipulations
> > | of the Navier Stokes equations that can reproduce electromagnetic
> > | effects. Furthermore non-viscous rare fluids do not carry
transverse
> > | waves. If the aether of M and M existed it would be rarer than
honesty
> > | in a politician and stiffer than Toledo steel. If you can come up
with
> a
> > | substance that is both solid and so rare that it doesn't slow down
the
> > | planets, then bottle it. You will make a small fortune.
> > |
> > | The Aetherists now look to the quantum vacuum or even spacetime
itself.
> > | The -call- those aether. But it is not the aether sought in the
MMX. It
> > | is completely different, so why call it by the same name? They
> > | desperately search for something they can call Aether and thus be
able
> > | to say "See, I told you so!". Besides, light is particles so it
> doesn't
> > | need a medium.

Why desperately Bob? The only desperate here is you!
Think of something you may understand, and beware of
that aether stuff. - It may drive you solid Maxwell nuts
with smooth ball-bearings right to an asylum in your own
chicken cage, where you may consider what to answer to
Paul Stowe's really kind and really simple questions, and
may even collect you a bottle of rainbow light particles.

No one is obliged to respond to your desperate postings.
And perhaps you would get better if no one did? A shame
is it anyway for you to exhibit that kind of silly nonsense.
You are not the one to falsify the Theory of Aether.

> > Light is a wave. Photons have both wave and particle aspects.
> > The only way to reconcile their wave-particle duality is with a
> > medium. That medium is for sure the quantum vacuum.
> > A hundred years ago, this was not known. Get your mind out
> > of the past. This is the 21st century. Space-time is not the same
> > at the quantum level as it is macroscopically. Vacuum quantum
> > objects are defining space-time.

Excellent Fredi. Probably like throwing water on a goose.
I wonder why anyone should bother with such discussions.
It it not even a regular trial to understand the aether history
of disappointing attempts to falsely describe the aether by
material properties it does not have, - such as has been so
strongly emphasized here about the Theory of the Aether.

Only ignorants who have not undertood one single bit of the
Aether Theory would oppose it with such stupid arguments.
They will not understand that refusal of false properties is
not refusal of Maxwell-Lorentz-Poincaré-Einstein's aether
developed now to the present state of physics.

> Take your own mind from the 19th century, Freddi!
> You accept quantum theory, so where is the need for
> a pervasive medium, when quantum mechanically,
> there is no volume to be filled?

David, what do you mean by "no volume to be filled"?
Is space disappearing? Isn't the quantum vacuum filled
with quanta like the ZPE-vacuum was filled with positive
and negative energies? Where in the universe will you
find a true empty vaccum, meaning space without any
mass or energy? The is space-time-energy continuum
is the aether.

If you have serious arguments against Aether Theory,
please forward them, but do yourself the favour to be
acquainted with the present state of the theory which
has been discussed in this thread.

If QM and QFT had had all the answers, we would have
no necessity for an Aether Theory to fuse EM, WM, QM,
SR, GR, STE, STM into 5D Kaluza-Klein with a precise
definition of aether energy density and aether pressure to
a "cosmological constant" Lambda in the General Theory
of Aether and Relativity, GAR, which indicates the strange
properties of matter and fields in low energy physics at
temperatures below the GAR 2.692064 Kelvin, and a
variablity of G and c as functions of higher aether densities
at temperatures T > 2.692064 Kelvin until the extremes
of galaxy kernel and black hole temperatures.

Ole D. Rughede

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