Re: Aether is the empty space in which the Universe sits

From: FrediFizzx (fredifizzx_at_hotmail.com)
Date: 08/22/04 

Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 15:42:01 -0700

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| > | > | Take your own mind from the 19th century, Freddi! You accept
| quantum
| > | > | theory, so where is the need for a pervasive medium, when quantum
| > | > | mechanically, there is no volume to be filled?
| > | >
| > | > Mind explaining this "no volume to be filled"? What does that mean?
| > | What
| > | > volume are you talking about? How do you propose that space-time
has
| a
| > | > certain geometry without something defining it?
| > |
| > | Quantum mechanics does not require distance, only sequence. Without
| > | distance, there is no volume. Without volume there is no place, or
| need,
| > | for aether. It is a "solution" to a statistical illusion.
| >
| > This looks like gibberish. What the heck is the uncertainty principle
| all
| > about then?
|
| Measurement error, limiting the system called "measurement device"
imbedded
| in the system "Universe" from determining with infinite precision both
| momentum and position, or both energy and time.

Uncertainty is a natural result of wave phenomenon. I am still not clear of
the point you are trying to make.

| > Position sounds like it is dealing with length to me. Atoms
| > occupy a volume in space. So do quarks, protons, electrons, etc. The
| > structure of elementary fermions comes from outside of them due to the
| > quantum vacuum.
|
| There is no "position" in QM, only sequence. A thing is either
| interacting, or it is not.

Take the Dirac Lagrangian density for a spinor field, psi,

L_D = i(hbar*c)psibar*gamma^{mu}*@_{mu}*psi - (m*c^2)psibar*psi.

Psibar*psi has dimensions of 1/volume, so I don't have a clue as to where
you are coming from. A quantum object is *always* interacting. It is
impossible to "isolate" a quantum object from other quantum objects.

| > | > The Universe is mechanical
| > | > even if it is quantum mechanical.
| > |
| > | So sure are you?
| >
| > No doubt in my mind whatsoever. Charge does not happen by magic. The
| only
| > solution I see is a mechanical one with a quantum mechanical medium.
But
| I
| > am listening. Talk me out of it if you can.
|
| Time is acausal. It underlies all of reality. Your mechanism is then
| based on "random chance". Mechanism then seems to deal with the
| "continuity of illusion". So mechanism is simply a logical construct used
| to tie sucessive events together.

What the heck is "acausal"? This word is not in any dictionary that I can
find. Time is simply the result of comparing two motions and is purely
relative. But I have no problem with "my mechanism" being based on random
chance. "Ordered chaos" is what it is called. Sorry, I am still not
getting your point here.

FrediFizzx

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