Re: Yes Science Needs God

From: Bill Hobba (bhobba_at_rubbish.net.au)
Date: 08/28/04 

Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 00:50:52 GMT

"Gregory L. Hansen" <glhansen@steel.ucs.indiana.edu> wrote in message
news:cglhtt$dgr$1@hood.uits.indiana.edu...
> In article <9c3da975.0408261111.4322cc4b@posting.google.com>,
> Mitchell <macromitch@internetCDS.com> wrote:
> >"robert j. kolker" <nowhere@nowhere.net> wrote in message
> >news:<2p5pudFgddgiU3@uni-berlin.de>...
> >> Mitchell wrote:
> >> > Science says a mindless lump created this universe. But who created
> >> > that so called "singularity?" Science won't admit God even when faced
> >> > with Him.
> >> > Mitch Raemsch
> >>
> >> And which God created God. Did He create himself? The concept is
> >> empirically unsuportable, there for it must be expelled from science.
> >>
> >> Bob Kolker
> >
> >The universe needs to be created. That is obvious. God doesn't.
>
> God needs to be created, that is equally obvious. Since he's been around
> since the beginning of time, and time didn't exist before the Big Bang,
> it follows that God was created in the Big Bang, along with the rest of
> the universe.

I believe in the God of Spinoza - does that God need to also be created?
BTW according to inflation models something did exist before the big bang -
the false vacuum. Your argument rests on God existing in time which,
depending on you conception of God, may or may not be true.

Thanks
Bill

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