Re: linking superconductivity and fusion Re: can it see the atoms during superconduction? Re: New electron microscope can actually see atoms; see Pu and see Superconductivity atoms??

From: Archimedes Plutonium (a_plutonium_at_iw.net)
Date: 09/28/04 

Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 13:23:41 -0500

 28 Sep 2004 10:31:37 GMT ru wrote:

> In article <4158F9B4.DA3673B2@iw.net>, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> > 27 Sep 2004 13:02:31 GMT ru wrote:
> >> In article <415670E7.7975735A@iw.net>, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
>
> >> > As for evidence that fusion is Classical Physics of Maxwell theory
> >> > and not Quantum Physics is the foundation of fusion in that it is
> >> > Coulomb repulsion of proton to proton of nuclei.
> >>
> >> that's fine up to a point, but it doesn't explain what happens once that
> >> repulsion is overcome. for that you need quantum mechanics.
> >> it's the strong force that holds nucleii together and provides the
> >> binding energy between the nucleons, and that's an explicitly quantum
> >> phenomenon.
>
> > I am the author of the Unification of Forces all as being a Coulomb
> > Force.
>
> are you now? well, if it makes you happy :)
>
> > So now, ask yourself if a Unification of the 4 forces exists, can 2 of
> > those 4 forces be Classical physics and the remaining other 2 forces
> > by Quantum physics?
>
> of course, all four forces are quantum. it's merely that EM and gravity
> have effects at macroscopic length scales, and so have a meaningful
> classical limit.
>
> the strong and weak forces are short range (for different reasons),
> and therefore never have an effect at macrospcopic scales, and display
> no classical limit.
>
> "classical" physics is simply an approximation to the actual quantum
> reality.
>

It appears as if you are having a lot of trouble and struggle with this
differentiation of Classical to Quantum. But then judging from the literature
of physics, everyone is having trouble with this. Let me ease your pain. It is
not a difference of length scale. It is not a difference of macroscopic to
microscopic. Example: Bell Inequality and Aspect Experiments shows us that
Quantum is everywhere and Classical is nowhere.

True, all things are quantum because the entire Universe itself is one big
atom.

The thing you fail to realize is that Maxwell theory has not yet been
quantized. It is too valuable to throw away even though it is not Quantum
Physics. It has not yet been incorporated into Quantum Physics. We are not
intelligent enough, not advanced enough to make the Maxwell Equations fully
Quantum equations.

Because we are not intelligent enough and have to wait into the future for
science to make the Maxwell Equations fully quantized means that we have to
use the 4 Maxwell Equations to do physics. That means we have to pragmatically
use them to solve Unification. In the process we begin to Quantize the Maxwell
Equations.

That means to solve Unification of Forces we have to wrap ourselves in
Classical Physics.

>
> > Where
> > Classical means Maxwell theory and Quantum means nonMaxwell theory.
>
> while you could use these terms in this way, but you would be using them
> differently to the rest of the world.

You do not have a handle on what it means to be Classical and Quantum.

The Maxwell Equations is the heart of Classical Physics. They should be
Quantized. But humanity is too primitive in knowledge to quantize the Maxwell
Equations thereby eliminating Classical physics.

Solving Unification of the 4 forces is on the road to making the Maxwell
Equations fully Quantum physics.

That means we wrap ourselves around Maxwell Equations and say all the Forces
of Physics are Maxwell theory of the Coulomb law and by doing so we begin to
see the flaws and gaps and slowly but surely begin to Quantize the Maxwell
theory into a Quantum Physics EM.

>
>
> > So how can the Strong Nuclear Force be Maxwell theory of Coulomb?
> > Easy. Inside every neutron sits a proton and electron.
>
> not a new hypothesis, and one that has been experimentally falsified by
> deep inelastic scattering.

I believe when it first came out it was known as Meson theory that some meson
in the nucleus of atoms held the protons together. That is different from my
Nuclear Electron theory. Meson theory has a different particle than electron.
I simply say the electron switches space for more charge or force.

>
>
> > Let us call
> > that electron a special name of nuclear-electron. So that what holds
> > together a nucleus is a Coulomb type force begot from the
> > nuclear-electron inside of every neutron. These nuclear-electrons
> > spill out of neutrons and run around the nuclear sea of protons
> > holding them all together.
>
> so you're saying that nuclei are held together by a variant of
> electrostatic attraction between these nuclear-electrons and the protons
> (including the protons "inside" the neutrons)?
>
> clearly it can't be the standard electric charge, because you still have
> a net positive charge that would dominate. so what is it?

When a normal electron holds together a atom vis a vis electron to proton of a
hydrogen atom of its singular proton and singular electron the space of that
electron is enormous.

But when you shrink the space of a normal electron and squeeze that space down
into the space of a nucleus, you convert space to charge. Or charge to force
which is the strong nuclear force.

So when you have a normal singular electron and singular proton of hydrogen
and then fuse hydrogen into helium which has a nucleus of neutrons and protons
you have thence created 2 nuclear-electrons whose normal space has been
converted for the most part into charge or force (strong nuclear).

So in this manner we begin to see how all forces of Nature are simply the
Coulomb force.

>
>
> > So, you see, you really have not given much thought to Strong Nuclear
> > Force
>
> oh, i have. i just don't think in the same manner as you do.
>
> --
> ru

It may take us 2,000 years into the future to convert the Maxwell theory into
a Quantum theory because of experiments involved. It took 2,000 years to give
birth to Quantum Physics from the ancient Greek Democritus theory of atoms,
likewise, it just may take 2,000 years to give birth to a fully Quantum
Mechanical EM theory.

In the meantime we are forced pragmatically to have to use the Maxwell theory.

Archimedes Plutonium
www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots
of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies

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