Re: 50 ways to thank dr. jai maharaj for creating bigotry in 50 newsgroups

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Date: 09/06/04 

Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 06:19:42 GMT

In soc.culture.british imemind <imemind@comcast.net> wrote:
> Hunter1 <hunter1@arach.net.au> wrote in message news:<413aaa0b@funnel.arach.net.au>...
>> harmony wrote:
>>
>> > pls reread while in your sober moment that i have not said hindus are a
>> > master race, only just that learned that they are fine people. well, you
>> > said you thought of hindus and buddhist as "mellow people" below, so why do
>> > you have a problem when i say they are a fine people?
>>
>>
>> I don't, they are a fine people, as are most. But what you
>> did was to condemn nearly everyone else whilst saying how
>> great you are. That was more of a Hitler-ian technique
>> rather than happily saying "we're good".
>>
> So anybody who takes pride in one's identity, is a nazi because taking
> such pride implicitly condemns 'nearly everyone else'. What an
> excellent logic - I should recommend you for rajiv gahndi award.

There's nothing implicit about Parekh's condemnation of
everyone else. He's a died-in-the-wool racist.

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=Be weary of them beady eyes aussies.
=It may time for India to explode another nuke.

==

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=There go these whites again, fighting over a peace of bread.

==

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= Mo is the one of the very few who goes out of his way to try to
= educate pakis.

==

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=They must not speak of Indians in the same breath (or sentence) with
=pakis and bds

==

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=The British govt ought to allocate $3bil to mommedan welfare programs and
=the rioting problem can be easily solved. In USA we have midnight
=basketball, for instance, which has resulted in significant decrease in
=crime rates in New Jersey and New York.

==

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=Yes, you cold have; you all are fully capable of it.
=Europe has more than fair share of its ungrateful, unappreciative,
=sour***
=backstabbers. If y'll had to pay for all your wars from your own pockets,
=and pay back on marshall plan you all would still be digging ditches or
=picking cotton in my relatives' Alabama plantation. Can you all ever say
=thank you? No!!!
=
=Only good guys from there are the swedes.

==

From: "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: U.K. sets toddler's killers free
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 10:58:39 -0500
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=Brits always loved porn as present day survey too
=shows. They were just happy to find kamasutra. You can go back to your
=skin
=flick rental now, deepthroat.

==

>> > also, you have said ad nauseam that you think that reliogions are crap.
>>
>>
>> Yep.

> If you think religion is a crap, does it not make you the biggest
> hater/bigot of all?

No, it doesn't. Religion is crap. Show me the fairies.

> And If religion is so bad, hating it should be not
> only good bur divine. Bigger the religion, more hatred it should
> receive. By that definiation, Islam and xianity should receive the
> biggest hatred, as they are the largest religions.

No, Christianity is relatively innocuous compared to Hinduism and
Islam, ubiquitous paedophilia notwithstanding.

> Your generalized statement against religion assumes that all religions
> are alike,

Only on their crapitude.

> therefore if one religion is bad, all others must be bad
> too,

Of course. That is inherent in the concenopt of crap. However,
some are crapper than others.

> and that no one relgion can be good or better than any other.

No, it doesn't. The religions of Hinduism and Islam are
terrorist organisations.

For example.

1. A pile of children barbecued by psychotic Hindu extremists

> >Murder of Christians
> >
> >http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2003/137/11.0.html
> >
> >"Justice has been done!" some shouted. "The Christians have been
> >cremated in Hindu fashion." According to some eyewitnesses, the mob
> > kept
> >the fire going for more than an hour, threatening would-be rescuers.

2. Mass Murder of Sikh boys and men by extremist Hindu psychos

> >"Operation Bluestar" and ensuing riots in, e.g,., New Dehli
> >
> >> > > http://allaboutsikhs.com/bluestar/
> >> > > http://www.gendercide.org/case_kashmir_punjab.html
> >> > > http://www.gendercide.org/images/pics/delhi1.jpg

3. A pile of dead Muslim children, burned beyond recognition by
    extremist Hindu psychos

http://www.alkhilafah.info/massacres/india/

4. Dead children murdered by fucked up Islamics

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3628432.stm

> If
> one made similar generlizations about ideology(capitalism, socialism,
> communism, humanism, theism, feminism, secularism, statism) or
> state-crafts(demcoracy, monarchy, dictatorship, anarchy), you would
> exhibit all kinds of nazi syndorms against such believers.

Take your strawman and put it back in the field.

> Like ideologies, theologies also differ greatly and can be opposite in
> nature.

Yes, but ultimately they all stress faith over reason, and on that
basis must be dismissed.

> Just because one set of theologies are bad and have compiled a
> historically terrible track record does not mean all other theologies
> must be in the same vein, that theologies victimized by predatory
> theologies should have no right to air or seek redress or justice.
> This is far worse form of abolishism than Nazism.

No it isn't. The Nazis put Christians in concentration camps. All
Hunter did was call all religion - in a totally outmoded attempt to
be fair and non-racist - crap. Surely you appreciate the difference
between these two outcomes?

 
>> > so
>> > if i call missionaries, who do nothing but spread religion (and that too in
>> > fraudulently just to convert the most vulnerable people) as bad people, how
>> > is that
>> > 1) seem to get your goat
>> > 2) anti-xtian
>>
>>
>> I may think religion is a load of crap, but I respect anyone
>> else's right to be fooled by their fairy tale of choice,
>> including yourself.

> No. You can not call something a crap and than pretend that you
> respect the rights of others. If you respect hidus, than you would
> also respect their right to air their grievences and seek redress
> democratically. But you only seem to respect and protect religions
> that are pradatory and expansionist and intolerent . You get up only
> when Hindus speak up.

The Hindus you are defending are predatory, expansionist and intolerent.

Let's look at some examples:

==

From: usenet@mantra.com (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
Date: 20 Nov 2002 21:00:06 GMT
Organization: Mantra Corporation
Message-ID: <Brit-23n73f.20021120@news.mantra.com>

=Nearly everyone knows about the Brit terrorism aka colonialism
=around the world. I doubt that any compensatory actions by
=the Brits will be entirely respected.
=
=> UK is selling arms to both sides (?) and claims to be friends with
both
=> sides (?). Just right for arms sales. But not matching with the
words
=> above.
=
=It's about money.
=
=> Is it part of a nostalgic effort to reclaim lost glory and hide the
=> killings
=> that happened before - over a period of a couple of hundred years ?
=
=It's a result of the burden of overwhelming guilt.
=
=> The truth is just beginning to emerge.
=>
=> When will we have it all.
=
=We have it now -- without every Brit admitting it.
=
=Jai Maharaj
=http://www.manta.com/jai

==

From: address.below.or@web.site (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
Subject: Re: What happens to Unionism if Britain breaks up?
Date: 1998/04/26
Message-ID: <Bharat-1838.980426@news.mantra.com>#1/1

=We get it all, others can wait for a call.

==

David Starr/Deb Shanker/sdivad
="Looks like the dumbass arab wannabe muslim scum is back. Or, is it
= the worshipper of the *** child Jesus???"
..

==

From: "Neil Ozman" <neil_oz@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <9acaaf$m4o$1@merki.connect.com.au>
=Christianity and Islam breed retarded and inhumane people.

==

> From krishan@ntlworld.com Fri Jun 7 14:41:37 2002
> Message-ID: <3D009766.CFE986BF@ntlworld.com>
> From: krishan <krishan@ntlworld.com>
> =
> =
> = What do you call a white honky english barbarian doing a job?
> = ASSLICKER
> =
> = krishan

//

From: virenbeena@hotmail.com (Virendra Verma)
Subject: Re: Editorial - OUR WAR, NOT THEIRS
Date: 31 Oct 2003 07:40:17 -0800
Message-ID: <30ee7e04.0310310740.7efe9f8e@posting.google.com>

'Throw out Britishers from India and tell them go to hell and mind
your
'own business. India should not entertain these worms from Britain
'anymore unless they change their attitude toward India.

//

From: mangesh_kale@yahoo.com (mangesh)
Subject: hawk jet trainers to India
Date: 20 Aug 2003 03:14:20 -0700
Message-ID: <a238cf94.0308200214.4bc3b48c@posting.google.com>

=Further, the majority of white population in UK still considers
=Indians to be an inferior race and slave nation. In fact, the so
=called makers of the hawk jets, the British Aerospace is one of the
=most imperialistic and racist organisations in UK from the
perspective
=of Asian community here. It is very hard to get in to BAE even if you
=are born bought up and educated in UK and if you have brown skin.
=
=Why do we Indians tolerate such crap of British when we have never
=gained anything back other than insults and backstabbing?

==

Jail Maharaj

>From usenet@mantra.com Tue Aug 31 19:33:23 2004
Message-ID: <cJb4Z96nKyt1@gy068t2KFIonTs>
=>The English work? They'd rather steal, loot and plunder.

 Neil Ozman/Sunil Sethi wrote in Msg-ID
= <9aca0k$lv3$1@merki.connect.com.au>
=
= "Thank God we have the REAL IRA, still fighting for freedom."
=
=
= Neil Ozman/Sunil Sethis wrote in Msg-ID
= <9ah9fs$6pi$1@merki.connect.com.au>
=
=[Of the Real IRA] " They in fact are hero's and are fighting
=for freedom from British SCUM! Who would believe a Brit. in
=any case, lies is 2nd nature to you bastards."

==

Subject: Re: Secrets of Britain's economic Might?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.punjab, soc.culture.indian,
soc.culture.british
Date: 1996/06/27
From: Mahesh Saptarshi at IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

>Give me a nuclear bomb, and I know which islands to sink,
>to annihilate, to demolish from the face of the beatiful
>earth. Then the earth will be a happy place once again.
>Mahesh Saptarshi

==

Neil Ozman = Sunil Sethi, HIndu Extremist.

Subject: Re: Violent Pakistani/Muslim crowds in England
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 08:10:09 +1000
Organization: Customer of Connect.com.au Pty. Ltd.
Message-ID: <9hga20$got$1@merki.connect.com.au>
=Yeap! They will try to take away the focus from the Muslims. After all
=the
=UK has been a fertile ground to recruite Muslim Terrorist for the
=terrorism
=in India and the Brits turned a blind eye to this for years! Now they
=have
=Pakistani terrorism in their homeland .......... great to see!
------------------------------------------------- ============

> You pretend to be a secularist, quick to attack
> Hindus,

Extrmist, murderous, intolerant extremists HIndus, yes. And you
are very quick to defend them.

> quick to come to defence of Xianity and Islam.

Because Christianity and Islam are the targets of the extremist
Hindus he has engaged and you are defending.

> Your brand of
> secularism derives its political strength from its defence of Xianity
> and Islam.

Your brand of snake oil derives its strength from the defence
of fascist ordure.

> In India, such secularism does not fool all Indians.

No, justr the bulk of the electorate who have rejected your
extremism for the foulness it is.

> You
> might engage in wordplay to seek to fool few, but India had created a
> solid political force against such opportunistic secularism.

and after that extremism had buggered up the country, it
was rejected by the electorate.

> What gets my goat is a Hindu spitting
>> bile at all Muslims and Christians when he is sucked in by a
>> fairy-tale just as much as followers of either of the other
>> 2 religions.

> Again, you assume that all fairy tales are same. And that no religion
> should be able to oppose Islam and xianity without provoking your
> secular wrath

Correct. Do you think religious delusionals have the right to
engage in holy war just because they are nuts?

> and anybody should be able to gang up on Hindism without
> batting an eyelid from your secularism.

Yes, we all must gang up on extremists religions of every kind,
including the fascist Hindus with whom you ally yourself.

> Hindus should not even
> complain about their victimization

Oh, but they do. And they exaggerate and use whatever crumbs they can
find to fuel their jihad against the rest of us.

> but suffer only in silence - And
> that hindus should meekly accept this brand of secualrism and its
> claims to be just, tolerent and respectful of all religions?

It sounds like you are trying to map Christlike gentleness onto
your favourite saffron facists.

> Hypocrisy should be written on the forehead in
>> these cases,

> Do ever look in the mirror?

Never mind the mirror. You and the extremists you support ought
to be in jail:

Neil Ozman/Sunil Sethi wrote in Msg-ID
= <9aca0k$lv3$1@merki.connect.com.au>
=
= "Thank God we have the REAL IRA, still fighting for freedom."
=
=
= Neil Ozman/Sunil Sethis wrote in Msg-ID
= <9ah9fs$6pi$1@merki.connect.com.au>
=
=[Of the Real IRA] " They in fact are hero's and are fighting
=for freedom from British SCUM! Who would believe a Brit. in
=any case, lies is 2nd nature to you bastards."

==

Jai Maharaj advertises IRA training video -> http://tinyurl.com/277e9

> just the same as it should be on the foreheads
>> of Muslim and Christians zealots, they however are not
>> currently poluting usenet with their hypocritical bull***,

> You would not know bull*** even if it hits your face. Your ideology
> depends on those moslem and xian zealots to stay afloat. Without them
> , your ideology si big zero.

Your ideology requires assiduous and continuous procto-
osculation of far right wing Hindu Nationalists to stay
afloat. However, in case you hadn't noticed they are going
down as the Indian people - the majority are Hindus of course -
have had enough of their corruption and fascism.

>
>> it's a couple of Nazi Hindus doing that, so they're the ones
>> I'm playing with.
>>

> Do you know what Nazism is?

Did you know that the far right wing Hindus you venerate found
much to admire in Naziism? Specifically, Golwalkar praised
Nazi anti-Semitism and saw in it a lesson for extremist
Hindus in getting right of Christian, Sikh and Muslim minorities in
India.

> And why it was bad? Get some education -

Did you know that the head vampire of the far right wing Hindus you are
are defending is out to rehabilitate one of the worst Nazi collaborators
of all time?

http://tinyurl.com/yutm5
http://tinyurl.com/2ne6a
http://tinyurl.com/2yzyy

To anyone else, Bose is just another Nazi collaborator but to the
Mahabully, Bose is "Netaji" - respected leader, pioneer, etc.

> you seem to wollow in your own bull*** of ignorance and hatred.

You seem to have carefully reversed the truth.

> Nazism had following ingrediants:

> - Belief in supermacy of Xianity

No it didn't. You lied again.

Hitler hated Christianity:

"You see, it's our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why
didn't we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice
for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion
too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity.
Why did it have to be Christianity with all its meekness and
flabbiness?"

--Adolph Hitler, INSIDE THE THIRD REICH Memoirs by Albert Speer, page 96

==

"The Nazis, on the other hand, had no illusions about the
fundamental incompatibility between Christianity and party
ideology. Martin Bormann once captured the essence of the
problem of the Nazi state versus religion when he said that
'National Socialism and Christianity are irreconciliable',
a position fully endorsed by Hitler, who pronounced that
'one day we want to be in a position where only complete
idiots (Deppen) stand on the pulpit and preach to old women.'
The Nazis had a metaphysical hatred of Christianity because
they saw it as a Jewish-derived faith that had been reinforced
by money-grubbing clerics (Pfaffen)"

page 359, NAZI GERMANY A New History Klaus P. Fischer.

==

"it was not very long before the Nazi regime began to subvert the
influence of the Roman Catholic Church"

"Cardinal Faulhaber arranged for a personal interview with Hitler
on November 9, 1936." ... "When the two men came to the topic of
the racial Laws of 1935 and the sterilization of those who suffered
from genetic diseases--two issues that had given rise to funda-
mental differences on both sides--the fuhrer became angry and told
the cardinal that he would not tolerate church interference in
such matters."

"official harrassment against Catholics continued unabated."

"HUndreds of monks and nuns were pilloried in the press and, in
the process and then arraigned in the courts on trumped-up
charges ranging from financial malfeasance to sexual aberrations".

"Joseph Goebbels, himself a former Catholic, orchestrated a smear
campaign and, in the process, highlighted sensational charges of
clerical immorality."

"Hundreds of nuns and priests were convicted and sent to
concentration camps".

page 363, ibid.

==

>> Hitler used God-speak in public, and dignified Nazi rituals by
>> holding them in Christian settings, but his privately expressed
>> opinion reveals his true feelings about Christianity:
>>
>> "The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of
>> Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are
>> inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was
>> introduced into the world by Christianity.... Let it not be said that
>> Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was
>> in
>> the natural order of things."
>>
>> "Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against
>> nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the
>> systematic cultivation of the human failure."
>>
>> "The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was
>> that
>> it knew nothing of the two great scourges: the pox and Christianity."
>>
>> "Christianity is an invention of sick brains: one could imagine nothing
>> more senseless, nor any more indecent way of turning the idea of the
>> Godhead into a mockery.... .... When all is said, we have no reason to
>> wish that the Italians and Spaniards should free themselves from the
>> drug
>> of Christianity. Let's be the only people who are immunised against the
>> disease."

--Adolph Hitler

==

>> "It would always be disagreeable for me to go down to posterity as a
>> man
>> who made concessions in this field. I realize that man, in his
>> imperfection, can commit innumerable errors-- but to devote myself
>> deliberately to errors, that is something I cannot do. I shall never
>> come
>> personally to terms with the Christian lie. Our epoch in the next 200
>> years will certainly see the end of the disease of Christianity.... My
>> regret will have been that I couldn't... behold ."

--Adolph Hitler

> - Belief in supramacy of white race
> - Belief in Socialism
> - Belief in strong centralized statism
> - Hatred of diversity in race, religion and politics - it brook no
> diversity and opposition in those arena.

Yes, the far right wing Hindu flakes you are defending admired
that aspect of it.

> - Its patriotism was based on above - it was nationalism based on
> above

Like this?

"Though RSS leaders claims to be simply pro-Hindu, their acceptance of
 Muslims has serious limitations. One firm belief is that Indians are
 Hindus and that Indian Muslims were forced to convert and should return
 to
 their proper roots by converting from Islam back to Hinduism. In an essay
 about the RSS activism in Britain, Pragna Patel writes "The RSS claims to
 a be a cultural organization working mainly with boys and young men (and
 more recently women), but whose leaders in the past, have aspired to
 emulate German nationalism under Hitler, built on anti-Semitic and racist
 ideology. Its central objective is to forge a militant Hindu identity, by
 communalising the arenas of sports culture and other extra-parliamentary
 spaces."

Your blather has become intolerable. Consider yourself censured and
censored. 

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