Re: Where does an infinitely large gorilla sit?

From: Oriel36 (geraldkelleher_at_hotmail.com)
Date: 09/07/04 

Date: 7 Sep 2004 10:02:28 -0700

glhansen@steel.ucs.indiana.edu (Gregory L. Hansen) wrote in message news:<chivug$7s3$2@hood.uits.indiana.edu>...
> In article <9X3%c.12654$vy.1437@attbi_s52>,
> Spaceman <Spaceman@realspaceman.com> wrote:
> >
> >"robert j. kolker" <nowhere@nowhere.net> wrote in message
> >news:2q3vtbFr3nt0U1@uni-berlin.de...
> >} Make it easy. The entire plane is spanned by two perpendicular lines,
> >} call them X and Y. The line X is infinite in length yet is a just small
> >} part of the space.
> >
> >So now you actually believe in smaller than Plank length?
>
> You sort of have to believe in quantum mechanics, first, before you
> can believe in the Planck length. Do you believe in the Planck length?
>
> But the Planck length really comes under the heading of numerology. A
> bunch of fundamental constants thrown together that happen to work out to
> units of length.

The guys in the early 20th century screwed with your heads that much
that you don't know what to believe.All that fine tuning to give a
precise geometric lenght and then you decide that it is nothing more
than a bunch of constants.

http://physics.nist.gov/cgi-bin/cuu/Value?plkl|search_for=all!

That's the madness,no man can live with a contradiction but apparently
you and your colleagues made an industry out of it,the price of your
self congratulation and hero worship is an intellectual death that I
don't think anyone else would pay that price.

  Maybe that means something, maybe it doesn't. I vote
> for doesn't. At least, not in the sense of a shortest possible length,
> although it might be worth something as an energy regime of quantum
> gravity.

So this is what you mean from a typical garden variety physicist -

"The Planck length is the scale at which classical ideas about gravity
and space-time cease to be valid, and quantum effects dominate. This
is the ‘quantum of length', the smallest measurement of length with
any meaning.

And roughly equal to 1.6 x 10-35 m or about 10-20 times the size of a
proton."

I love these things because they have the air of authority but they
wither with simple reasoning based on the diameter,circumference and
Pi.As you are intellectually dead ,don't worry about it.

The justification for the Planck lenght is given in terms of physical
distance,geometry in other words.

The Planck lenght is also a diameter so it is possible to create a
circumference from that diameter.The ratio between the planck lenght
and its circumference is the Pi value of 3.1415....

If you can create a circumference from a diameter you can also create
a radius half the original Planck lenght otherwise it is tantamount to
saying that Pi is a rational value.There is no determinate
lenght/diameter where the Pi begins and ends and that is a fact.

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