Re: Reflections on Aether

From: Monitek (monitek_at_aol.com)
Date: 09/09/04 

Date: 09 Sep 2004 22:58:55 GMT

>From: feuerbac@thphys.uni-heidelberg.de (Bjoern Feuerbacher)
>Date: 30/08/2004 17:35 GMT Daylight Time
>Message-id: <4bb90092.0408300835.358bc69e@posting.google.com>
>
>monitek@aol.com (Monitek) wrote in message
>news:<20040823011555.16562.00002656@mb-m22.aol.com>...
>
>Oh, hi, here you are! Say, what happened to our e-mail discussion?

Summer! Wenn Winter hier kommt, besprechen uns wir.
I have your 48 pages waiting for me to go through.

>I see that
>you still make the same arguments, which I rebutted several times
>already...
>
>[snip]
>

Your arguments are circular we got back to where we started and lok we are here
again.

snip.
>> A description of EMR propagation with alternating
>> electric and magnetic fields in a medium which when the EMR has passed does
>> not appear to exist.
>
>This sentence makes no sense. Apparently some words are missing in it.
>

A description of EMR propagation, with alternating electric and magnetic
fields, in a medium which, when the EMR has passed, does not appear to exist.

A few commas might help. What I am saying is that an electron positron aether
would exhibit the properties of an "Aether" only in the viscinity of the
propagating wavefront when the wave has passed only a field free vacuum
remains. Which is pretty much what happens!

>
>> Now, for inertia. As we have described above an accelerating charge creates
>a
>> magnetic field, the same magnetic field creates a back emf in the initial
>> conducting medium
>
>Which the vacuum still is not.
>

The vacuum has an impedance of 300 ohms therefore it is a conductor.
Non-conductors have infinite impedance!

>> which opposes the motion of the charged particles creating
>> the magnetic field. Inertia is the same phenomenon where charged matter
>which
>> is accelerating is opposed by the back emf from the magnetic fields created
>in
>> the vacuum.
>
>People have tried to calculate this decades ago. It doesn't work. E.g.
>this idea
>predicts for the electron a size which is about 1000 times greater
>than the
>upper limit obtained for its size experimentally.
>

That was the magnetic moment of an electron treated as a circular current. Not
what I was thinking of really. More stuff travelling in a straight line.

>> Matter consists of charged particles of opposite polarities in
>> close proximity, the EMR generated from each particle when a body is
>> accelerated is cancelled by the EMR from an immediately adjacent
>oppositely
>> charged particle.
>
>This would only work if the particles were at exactly the same place,
>not if
>they are only "adjacent".
>

It works either way. The wavelength at low speed change is long.

>> Thus no external radiation phenomena can be seen all that is
>> observed is the resistance to acceleration. The link between inertia an
>> electromagnetic induction is the fact that both only occur when a system of
>> charged particles is subjected to an acceleration.
>
>Err, photons also have something like inertia.
>

Massless particles have no inertia. Something like is not the same as having.

snip

>And you keep ignoring that
>1) cancellation of charges contradicts charge conservation

You are the only one that thinks, so look -1 + 1 = 0
Charge conservation is NOT violated.

>2) if the charges are cancelled, electromagnetic fields can no longer
>have any effects on the particles.
>

http://www.physics.purdue.edu/topaz/research/emagcoupl.html

>From which I quote:
Virtual particle-antiparticle pairs popping into and out of the vacuum are
represented by blue-gold ellipses; the blue side, corresponding to a
positively-charged particle, is nearer to the electron.
End quote.

I say that the pairs are dormant in the vacuum and "pop into existence" as part
of the mechanism of EMR propagation. What is your explanation for the "pop into
existence" effect?
Caution: there is not enough energy for pair creation.

>Both arguments destroy your ideas totally.
>

You can not destroy the concept dielectric medium as easily as that!

>
>Bye,
>Bjoern
>

Regards,
Monitek (Arden Barker)

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