Re: What's up with gravity wave detection ?

From: Ahmed Ouahi, Architect (ahmed.ouahi_at_welho.com)
Date: 09/11/04 

Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 14:08:21 +0300

.............. ...The force of gravity is one of the most obvious in our
daily lives; it keeps us from flying up into the sky, for a starts. But
gravity is different from all other forces in our daily lives in one very
important aspect. All other forces seem to be contact force. If you punch
someone, that person has few doubts that contact has been made. And all
else, pushing, pulling, friction, and so forth, all the mechanical forces
that surround us, seem to take effect by direct contact, so much so that the
idea of force as an action resulting from contact pervades our everyday
conception of force.
.............. ...The one apparent exception is gravity, which seems to
act at a distance. When I jum from a diving plank there are no ropes
attaching me to the Earth, and still the Earth pulls me towards its center.
The Sun pulls the Earth around its orbit from 100, 000, 000 miles away,
again without ropes attached. These facts puzzled Newton so much that he
vented his frustration about his own theory in the following manner:
.............. ..." The gravity may be... so that one body may act upon
another at a distance through a vacuum, without the mediation of something
else, by and through which their action and force may be conveyed from one
to another, is to me so great an absurdity, that I believe no man ... can
ever fall into it. " Clearly Newton would have been much happier if the
Earth and the Sun were indeed tied together by
ropes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.................. ...

-- Joćo Magueijo 

--
Ahmed Ouahi, Architect
Best Regards!
"Aleksandr Timofeev" <a_n_timofeev@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> Dear David Bilge.
>
> dubious@radioactivex.lebesque-al.net (Bilge) wrote in message
news:<slrnck1fsg.86.dubious@radioactivex.lebesque-al.net>...
> > Aleksandr Timofeev, siberian snow salesman,
> >  >dubious@radioactivex.lebesque-al.net (Bilge) wrote:
> >  >
> >  >Dear David Bilge.
> >  >
> >  >Many thanks for the close and friendly attitude to me.
> >
> >    I prefer cash. It lasts longer and is more sincere than
> > most ``thank you's'' in usenet posts.
>
> Whether I am correct has understood your hint, what you belong to to
> cohort of a corrupt yellow press?
> >
> >  >       **** Thanking to David Bilge, ****
> >  >
> >  >**** I have received international recognizing at last. ****
> >
> >   How's that?
>
> For the first time I have received recognizing my discovery
> in a gravitation by the expert in this area of science Vladimr
> Borisovich Braginsky.
>
> Some words about a role of guessing on numbers (numerology -
> empircism)
> in development of physical science:
>
> ==================================================================
>             Parable First told by
> internationaly recognized gravitational experimentalist
>               V. B. Braginsky
>       to me in personal comunication!!! >;^)
>
>
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=e16a4a22.0204110453.6e1764ef%40posting.
google.com
>
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>
> http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/%7Ehistory/Mathematicians/Balmer.html
>
>
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>
> What can _David Bilge_ say about the internationaly recognized
> gravitational experimentalist V. B. Braginsky?
>
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>
> > Did you hijack a plane using an ivory tusk and then try
> > to explain interfering with the crew using your usual VLBI soliloquy?
>
>  It is the sad fact,      :o(
>
> but I had mass of examples to be convinced that you are not capable
> to explain a self-interference of "ghost particle - photon" in VLBI.
> :o(
>
>  Sorry, but I do not believe in ghosts...   :o(
>
>
> >  >Some words about a role of guessing on numbers (numerolog - empircism)
> >  >in development of physical science:
> >
> >
>http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/%7Ehistory/Mathematicians/Balmer.html
> >
> >  >  However, despite being a mathematics teacher and lecturer all his
> >  >life, Balmer is best remembered for his work on spectral series
> >  >and his formula, given in 1885, for the wavelengths of the spectral
> >  >lines of the hydrogen atom.
> >  >  This was set out in one of only two papers which he wrote on
> >  >spectra of the elements, the second being in 1897.
> >  >
> >  >  The major contribution which Balmer made, however, depended much
> >  >more on his mathematical skills than on his understanding of physics,
> >  >for his produced a formula which gave the wavelengths of the observed
> >  >lines produced by the hydrogen atom without giving any physical
> >  >explanation.
> >
> >   Does this mean you'll stop complaining about math and see if
> > it works better than your previous attempts at a physical
> > argument?
> >
> > [...]
> >  >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >  >The reason why the formula holds was not understood in Balmer's
> >  >lifetime and had to wait until the theoretical work of Niels Bohr in
1913.
> >  >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >
> >   Don't tell me you're going to finally accept quantum mechanics.
>
> What?
>
> What you can say about R. Feynman?
>
> > Announ your conversion and accepance of  quantum mechanics and math all
> > in one post is too much for one day, much less one post.
>
> But Jim Carr has a point of view on this subject,
> which one differs from yours, _David Bilge_.
>
> Regards
>        >;o)
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