Re: The 757 silhouette is *sexy*

From: God in a Box (master_at_mason.snuh)
Date: 09/16/04 

Date: 16 Sep 2004 12:32:07 GMT

glennab1@aol.com (1aircraftQAguy) wrote in
news:a83bb3a1.0409160413.2fbd630c@posting.google.com:

> "Benign Vanilla" <BVanillaREMOVE@tibetanbeefgarden.com> wrote in message
> news:<2qrm0tF10u5d7U2@uni-berlin.de>...
>> <plank@ofwood.net> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.1bb28e0ffe8049ae9896f3@news-text.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> > In article <2qr4omF13h1ndU5@uni-berlin.de>,
>> > BVanillaREMOVE@tibetanbeefgarden.com says...
>> > > True, true. I don't claim to be proving anything. I am simply
>> > > asking you
>> to
>> > > prove your hypothesis with more then "some guy said", and "my
>> > > brother's friend's roommate knows a guy that thinks", etc.
>> > >
>> >
>> > can I just make a simple suggestion - show us a chunk of 757 sticking
>> > out of the pentagon and the arguament is over - yes ?
>>
>> The author of the thread,
>> http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread79655/pg1, does just that. He
>> shows comprehensive examples of 757 parts in several areas of the
>> building. Does this mean we are now done?
>>
>> > Fail to do so and you had better come up with a VERY good explanation
>> > as to how a 757 vanished into thin air in the same manner that every
>> > other aircraft in history that has crashed has failed to do
>>
>> I agree. An airplane skidding, rolling, bouncing along the ground will
>> create quite a debris field, and we have many precedants showing that.
>> What we do not have is large data set on aircraft traveling at high
>> speed into buildings that later collapse on the debris, and then burn
>> for many hours.
>>
>> > you need to do one of the two - nothing else is relevant - its that
>> > simple
>>
>> I totally concur, and ask no more from the missile crowd. Show me
>> missile evidence.
>>
>> > show use the wreckage show us the bodies - they exist I suppose?
>> > They always have in every other plane crash thats ever occured -
>> > outside of a Kris Kristofferson/Daniel J. Travanti movie that is...
>>
>> I have not seen data on bodies. Is that because there were none? Were
>> they hidden from us? Did the media choose not to show it because of
>> it's graphic nature? I don't know.
>>
>> BV.
>
> I'm sure it was graphic, and remember it was the Pentagon...... how
> much media do they allow in? How's this for real people?
>
> AMERICAN AIRLINES FLIGHT 77
> American Airlines Flight 77, from Washington to Los Angeles, crashed
> into the Pentagon with 64 people aboard.
>
> CREW
>
> Charles Burlingame of Herndon, Virginia, was the plane's captain. He
> is survived by a wife, a daughter and a grandson. He had more than 20
> years of experience flying with American Airlines and was a former
> U.S. Navy pilot.
>
> David Charlebois, who lived in Washington's Dupont Circle
> neighborhood, was the first officer on the flight. "He was handsome
> and happy and very centered," his neighbor Travis White, told The
> Washington Post. "His life was the kind of life I wanted to have some
> day."
>
> Michele Heidenberger of Chevy Chase, Maryland, was a flight attendant
> for 30 years. She left behind a husband, a pilot, and a daughter and
> son.
>
> Flight attendant Jennifer Lewis, 38, of Culpeper, Virginia, was the
> wife of flight attendant Kenneth Lewis.
>
> Flight attendant Kenneth Lewis, 49, of Culpeper, Virginia, was the
> husband of flight attendant Jennifer Lewis.
>
> Renee May, 39, of Baltimore, Maryland, was a flight attendant.
>
>
> PASSENGERS
>
> Paul Ambrose, 32, of Washington, was a physician who worked with the
> U.S. Department of Health and Human Services and the surgeon general
> to address racial and ethnic disparities in health. A 1995 graduate of
> Marshall University School of Medicine, Ambrose last year was named
> the Luther Terry Fellow of the Association of Teachers of Preventative
> Medicine.
>
> Yeneneh Betru, 35, was from Burbank, California.
>
> M.J. Booth
>
> Bernard Brown, 11, was a student at Leckie Elementary School in
> Washington. He was embarking on an educational trip to the Channel
> Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as
> part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.
>
> Suzanne Calley, 42, of San Martin, California, was an employee of
> Cisco Systems Inc.
>
> William Caswell
>
> Sarah Clark, 65, of Columbia, Maryland, was a sixth-grade teacher at
> Backus Middle School in Washington. She was accompanying a student on
> an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary
> near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the
> National Geographic Society.
>
> Asia Cottom, 11, was a student at Backus Middle School in Washington.
> Asia was embarking on an educational trip to the Channel Islands
> National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a
> program funded by the National Geographic Society.
>
> James Debeuneure, 58, of Upper Marlboro, Maryland, was a fifth-grade
> teacher at Ketcham Elementary School in Washington. He was
> accompanying a student on an educational trip to the Channel Islands
> National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a
> program funded by the National Geographic Society.
>
> Rodney Dickens, 11, was a student at Leckie Elementary School in
> Washington. He was embarking on an educational trip to the Channel
> Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as
> part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.
>
> Eddie Dillard
>
> Charles Droz
>
> Barbara Edwards, 58, of Las Vegas, Nevada, was a teacher at Palo Verde
> High School in Las Vegas.
>
> Charles S. Falkenberg, 45, of University Park, Maryland, was the
> director of research at ECOlogic Corp., a software engineering firm.
> He worked on data systems for NASA and also developed data systems for
> the study of global and regional environmental issues. Falkenburg was
> traveling with his wife, Leslie Whittingham, and their two daughters,
> Zoe, 8, and Dana, 3.
>
> Zoe Falkenberg, 8, of University Park, Maryland, was the daughter of
> Charles Falkenberg and Leslie Whittingham.
>
> Dana Falkenberg, 3, of University Park, Maryland, was the daughter of
> Charles Falkenberg and Leslie Whittingham.
>
> Joe Ferguson was the director of the National Geographic Society's
> geography education outreach program in Washington. He was
> accompanying a group of students and teachers on an educational trip
> to the Channel Islands in California. A Mississippi native, he joined
> the society in 1987. "Joe Feguson's final hours at the Geographic
> reveal the depth of his commitment to one of the things he really
> loved," said John Fahey Jr., the society's president. "Joe was here at
> the office until late Monday evening preparing for this trip. It was
> his goal to make this trip perfect in every way."
>
> Wilson "Bud" Flagg of Millwood, Virginia, was a retired Navy admiral
> and retired American Airlines pilot.
>
> Dee Flagg
>
> Richard Gabriel
>
> Ian Gray, 55, of Washington was the president of a health-care
> consulting firm.
>
> Stanley Hall, 68, was from Rancho Palos Verdes, California.
>
> Bryan Jack, 48, of Alexandria, Virginia, was a senior executive at the
> Defense Department.
>
> Steven D. "Jake" Jacoby, 43, of Alexandria, Virginia, was the chief
> operating officer of Metrocall Inc., a wireless data and messaging
> company.
>
> Ann Judge, 49, of Virginia was the travel office manager for the
> National Geographic Society. She was accompanying a group of students
> and teachers on an educational trip to the Channel Islands in
> California. Society President John Fahey Jr. said one of his fondest
> memories of Judge is a voice mail she and a colleague once left him
> while they were rafting the Monkey River in Belize. "This was
> quintessential Ann -- living life to the fullest and wanting to share
> it with others," he said.
>
> Chandler Keller, 29, was a Boeing propulsion engineer from El Segundo,
> California.
>
> Yvonne Kennedy
>
> Norma Khan, 45, from Reston, Virginia was a nonprofit organization
> manager.
>
> Karen A. Kincaid, 40, was a lawyer with the Washington firm of Wiley
> Rein & Fielding. She joined the firm in 1993 and was part of the its
> telecommunications practice. She was married to Peter Batacan.
>
> Norma Langsteuerle
>
> Dong Lee
>
> Dora Menchaca, 45, of Santa Monica, California, was the associate
> director of clinical research for a biotech firm.
>
> Christopher Newton, 38, of Anaheim, California, was president and
> chief executive officer of Work-Life Benefits, a consultation and
> referral service. He was married and had two children. Newton was on
> his way back to Orange County to retrieve his family's yellow
> Labrador, who had been left behind until they could settle into their
> new home in Arlington, Virginia.
>
> Barbara Olson, 45, was a conservative commentator who often appeared
> on CNN and was married to U.S. Solicitor General Theodore Olson. She
> twice called her husband as the plane was being hijacked and described
> some details, including that the attackers were armed with knives. She
> had planned to take a different flight, but she changed it at the last
> minute so that she could be with her husband on his birthday. She
> worked as an investigator for the House Government Reform Committee in
> the mid-1990s and later worked on the staff of Senate Minority Whip
> Don Nickles.
>
> Ruben Ornedo, 39, of Los Angeles, California, was a Boeing propulsion
> engineer.
>
> Robert Penniger, 63, of Poway, California, was an electrical engineer
> with BAE Systems.
>
> Lisa Raines, 42, was senior vice president for government relations at
> the Washington office of Genzyme, a biotechnology firm. She was from
> Great Falls, Virginia, and was married to Stephen Push. She worked
> with the U.S. Food and Drug Administration on developing a new policy
> governing cellular therapies, announced in 1997. She also worked on
> other major health-care legislation.
>
> Todd Reuben, 40, of Potomac, Maryland, was a tax and business lawyer.
>
> John Sammartino
>
> Diane Simmons
>
> George Simmons
>
> Mari-Rae Sopper of Santa Barbara, California, was a women's gymnastics
> coach at the University of California at Santa Barbara. She had just
> gotten the post August 31 and was making the trip to California to
> start work.
>
> Bob Speisman, 47, was from Irvington, New York.
>
> Hilda Taylor was a sixth-grade teacher at Leckie Elementary School in
> Washington. She was accompanying a student on an educational trip to
> the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara,
> California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic
> Society.
>
> Leonard Taylor was from Reston, Virginia.
>
> Leslie A. Whittington, 45, was from University Park, Maryland. The
> professor of public policy at Georgetown University in Washington was
> traveling with her husband, Charles Falkenberg, 45, and their two
> daughters, Zoe, 8, and Dana, 3. They were traveling to Los Angeles to
> catch a connection to Australia. Whittington had been named a visiting
> fellow at Australian National University in Canberra.
>
> John Yamnicky, 71, was from Waldorf, Maryland.
>
> Vicki Yancey
>
> Shuyin Yang
>
> Yuguag Zheng
>
> The Associated Press contributed to this report.
> Related sites:
> National Geographic Web tribute to staff, students and teachers on the
> flight
>
> ECOlogic Web site, with a memorial to the Falkenberg family
>
> Wiley Rein & Fielding law firm Web site, with a tribute to Karen
> Kincaid
>
> Work-Life Benefits Web site, with tribute to Christopher Newton
>
> University of California at Santa Barbara Web site, with tribute to
> Mari-Rae Sopper
>
> Genzyme Corp. home page, with tribute to Lisa Raines
>
> http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/trade.center/victims/AA77.victims.html
 
Yes, and Rumsfeld said he picked bodies up off of the lawn and loaded them
onto stretchers.

Do you believe that, too? 

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