glennab1@aol.com: ASCE are liars

From: Sogum Dealer (master_at_mason.snuh)
Date: 09/16/04 

Date: 16 Sep 2004 21:58:49 GMT

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>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > So you're saying that the column between the "757" and
>> >> >> >> >> > "punch out" was damaged?
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Nope. There was no 757 at that point. A simple read of
>> >> >> >> >> the report explains it.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Oh great. Now he's going to be claiming you agree with him
>> >> >> >> > that there was no 757. Subtlty is wasted on this guy.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Please keep dancing around the question of the undamaged
>> >> >> >> column.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Please, keep avoiding the question as to how your killer
>> >> >> > jet/missile would have left the column undamaged.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The debris didn't travel that far. This is supported by the many
>> >> >> columns (6-8) that show only cosmetic damage.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> That's sort of the point. If you can't understand this, I'm not
>> >> >> surprised you're screwing up the gist of the argument.
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > You really should take the blinders out from in front of your face
>> >> > and place them over your keyboard.
>> >>
>> >> You should suck a nut, dickdrippings.
>> >
>> > Your homosexual tendencies are showing.
>>
>> Bring back Lensman. You really suck at this.
>
> The truth is to hard for you to handle, huh.

Is that another attempt at a question?

>> >> > The AE drive was littered with debris, so your "The debris didn't
>> >> > travel that far" is totally bogus.
>> >>
>> >> Can you explain how this debris got there, made a round exit hole,
>> >> yet didn't damage the column between the "757" and the "punch out"?
>> >
>> > It's already been done, many times.
>> >
>> > You don't know what "between" means.
>> > The column is adjacent the punch out.
>>
>> It is adjacent, very good. It is also between the "757" entry and the
>> "punch out".
>>
>> It is in front of, and to the left of, the "punch out".
>>
>> Diagram here:
>> ASCE Report Proves No 757 Hit The Pentagon
>> http://www.bedoper.com/pentagon/asce
>
> Nice....... The punctuation pro had three "period" ***-ups above!

What are you babbling about now?

> If that diagram were accurate, the column should be visible here:
> http://killtown.911review.org/flight77/nose/punch_out_hole.jpg
> Please explain why the column isn't visible. Or, is it? And it's
> damaged?

You might want to ask the ASCE, pally. It's their diagram. Why do you
distrust them so much? You're the first person to claim their diagram isn't
accurate.

>> > You don't know what "round" is.
>> > Notice, the straight vertical row of bricks on the left side of
>> > the hole.
>>
>> Photo here:
>>
>> ASCE Report Proves No 757 Hit The Pentagon
>> http://www.bedoper.com/pentagon/asce
>
> Ah yes, thank you. Notice the straight row of bricks across the top
> center of the opening as well as along the left side, and a nice
> straight concrete slab along the bottom. Not a round hole!

Yet everyone else on the planet refers to it as a round hole.

Is it square?

Triangular?

  
>> > You don't understand the force created by the explosion.
>> > Note; crash video. Explosive force; force is exerted in ALL
>> > directions.
>>
>> What the hell are you trying to say here? That you have almost mastered
>> the semicolon?
>
> Nice response........ though, pointless as usual when you're baffled.

Baffled by your attempts at communication?
 
> What, no smiley?

; )

> Well, if I have to explain....... The whole forward fuselage was
> destroyed milliseconds before the explosion. So, the aircraft was
> shredded/ing, and immediately, hot expanding gasses from the explosion
> boosted the debris.

And?

>> > You don't understand fluid dynamics.
>> > Fluids, containing solids, can still flow.
>>
>> And now you've fucked up their argument so bad as to claim it was a
>> fluid?
>>
>> That's really dumb.
>>
>> ; )
>>
>
> Awwwww, there's that smiley....... back to normal. You still no
> comprehend.
>
> No one ever claimed it was "a fluid,"

You said:

>> > You don't understand fluid dynamics.
>> > Fluids, containing solids, can still flow.

>it was fluid like, because of
> the flow. However, due to the hot expanding gasses (which are fluids)

Gasses are fluids, too?

> aiding in propelling the debris we get a better picture for you to
> understand.
>
> Do you? I bet......... Nope....... No comprehend.

What's to understand?

Are you going somewhere with this?

 
>> > You're not familiar with the Boeing 757 or Rolls-Royce RB211.
>> > The debris is foreign to you. It isn't foreign to me.
>>
>> Then why don't you prove it to us?
>>
>
> You've been shown serviceable 757/RB211 parts and illustrations, you
> just ignore them.

Really? You told us you have them under your bed or something. That they
were at work, and you couldn't copy them. Do you have a link to that?

>> >> You certainly haven't thus far.
>> >
>> > Communication requires at least two, you haven't been doing your
>> > part.
>>
>> Blah blah blah, fucky.
>
> Shocking! No smiley accompaniment.
> Hey guys, I think he's really Charlie Brown.

<crickets>

>> >> > The columns had cracking and spalling...... that's not cosmetic.
>> >>
>> >> Is it impairment of the column's function?
>> >
>> > Not immediately, but eventually it would (cracks don't get better,
>> > they only propogate).
>>
>> Propagate. So even though the ASCE says "no significant impairment of
>> function", you're claiming that there EVENTUALLY would be?
>
> Yep.

50 years? 100 years? 500 years?

Do you have a point?

>> That's brilliant.
>
> I know.

You think you do. That's what's scary.

>> Eventually, the entire building won't be standing. But none of that has
>> any bearing on this discussion.
>
> Verses your "cosmetic" lunacy, it does have bearing.

Again, you need to take it up with the ASCE. They said the columns in
question had no significant impairment of function, and that the column
between the "757" and the "punch out" had no damage at all.

>> > Why were the columns (with cosmetic damage)
>> > demolished.
>>
>> Was this supposed to be a question?
>
> Are you asking yourself about your own sentence?

No, I'm asking you about yours. Why is this hard for you to comprehend?

>> Even with the question mark added, it doesn't quite make sense.
>
> I know! You, conversing with yourself in a public domain..... Weird!
> Oh, Oh, you mean my sentence....... yeah, I know it doesn't make sense
> that they demolished (your word - "cosmetic") damaged columns.

*Who* demolished *what* columns, *when*?

>> > Stick to the issue, you said it was cosmetic damage.
>>
>> It was, in many cases, you fucking thick-skulled moron.
>>
>> >> ; )
>
> Oops, there you go again.

Thank you, Britney.

>> > You use that smiley a lot, it's a sign uncomfortableness!
>>
>> Is it? Or am I laughing at you?
>>
>> ; )
>
> You don't know what you're laughing at.

Of course I do. I'm laughing at you.

>> >> > "the deterioration of concrete was broadly classified into two
>> >> > stages. The first is the distributed microcracking and the
>> >> > accompanying increase in porosity which precedes major cracking,
>> >> > and the second is the major cracking which leads to delamination,
>> >> > spalling, and other large scale, visible damage."
>> >>
>> >> Visible damage. Cosmetic damage.
>> >
>> > Visible damage - as opposed to hidden damage.
>>
>> Very good!
>
> Over your head again. I'm not about to give an NDT course here.

You'll school no one in anything of significance.

 
>> > Notice - "major cracking which leads to.......... spalling"..........
>> > That is hardly cosmetic!
>>
>> Is it an impairment of structural function, you drooling rabbit turd?
>
> LOL....... Didn't we just have this discussion?

We seem to still be having it.

>> > Stick to the issue, you said it was cosmetic damage.
>>
>> It was, in many cases, you fucking thick-skulled moron.
>
> Seems, you're the fucking thick-skulled moron?

Thank you, Mr. Herman.

> Are you now straying away from the "cosmetic" damage idea?

What are you talking about? Is english your native language?

>> >> > http://iti.acns.nwu.edu/pubs/landis.html
>> >>
>> >> ASCE Report: "No significant impairment of function". We're talking
>> >> about structural columns, not mere surface damage.
>> >
>> > You don't know the meaning of mere.
>>
>> You certainly are the meaning of merde. Get back to me when you figure
>> out what you're flapping about, m'kay sunshine?
>
> LOL, Oh the Irony....... merde? ........ I love French! My brother
> took three years of French back when we were in high school and my
> daughter did also.

What did you take? A powder?

> You dumb ass!

Touche!

ASCE Report Proves No 757 Hit The Pentagon
http://www.bedoper.com/pentagon/asce

No 757 Hit The Pentagon
http://www.bedoper.com/eastman

New Online Video Proves No 757 Hit The Pentagon
http://www.freedomunderground.org/memoryhole/pentagon121.swf 

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