Re: are gravitons needed?

From: Old Man (nomail_at_nomail.net)
Date: 09/21/04


Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 19:49:36 -0500


"DAH" <dharder@bnl-dot-gov.no-spam.invalid> wrote in message
news:414f3f59_1@127.0.0.1...
> Uncle Al---"Gravitation is spacetime geometry."
>
> Old Man---"Gravitation puts tensor stresses on space and alters the
> space-time metric"
>
> If GR defines gravitation as an alteration in the geometry of
> spacetime, then why would exchange particles be required to
> produce the force of gravity at the quantum level?

Who says that gravitons are required ? Not Old Man
nor Uncle Al, and not GTR. So far, GTR is empirically
sufficient to all aspects of gravitation.

> Based upon the precepts
> of GR, wouldn't it be more logical to imagine that the gravitational
> field has its quantisation in a fundamental unit of spacetime
> alteration?

Cryogenic neutrons have been observed to fall in Earth's
surface gravity as predicted by non-relativistic QM.
There's no empirical justification for Quantization of the
gravitational field.

[Old Man]

> DAH 9/20/04



Relevant Pages

  • are gravitons needed?
    ... Uncle Al---"Gravitation is spacetime geometry." ... If GR defines gravitation as an alteration in the geometry of ...
    (sci.physics)
  • Re: are gravitons needed?
    ... > If GR defines gravitation as an alteration in the geometry of ... > spacetime, then why would exchange particles be required to produce ... > field has its quantisation in a fundamental unit of spacetime ...
    (sci.physics)
  • Re: are gravitons needed?
    ... If GR defines gravitation as an alteration in the geometry of ... spacetime, then why would exchange particles be required to produce ...
    (sci.physics)
  • =?utf-8?q?LET=E2=80=99S_DISCUSS_SPACETIME_AND_GRAVITATION,_BASING_ON_LOGIC,_RATHER_THAN_EINSTEIN
    ... gravitation and particle physics. ... progressed faster than this assumption and this spacetime definition ... matter, gravitational waves, Higgs particle, parity violation, etc.) ... where mass is gained automatically due to change of scales. ...
    (sci.physics.relativity)
  • Re: Is the Assumption Of Consistent Proper Time Throughout The Universe In GR Valid?
    ... This reveals a 4+1 spacetime and leads to a more fundamental discussion ... This prohibited a more suitable spacetime for gravitation ... Lorentz spacetime scales are defined. ... light and FTL mono waves be measured at ...
    (sci.physics.relativity)