Re: Heisenberg uncertainty principle meanings

From: Old Man (nomail_at_nomail.net)
Date: 09/21/04 

Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 18:13:57 -0500

"zigoteau" <zigoteau@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Old Man" <nomail@nomail.net> wrote in message
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> > Measurements are performed through the Hamiltonian, H.
>
> I don't think you've been in a lab for quite a while. Many modern
> instruments measure the intensity of light. Others measure electrical
> currents. The results go straight into a computer. The connection with
> the Hamiltonian and with Newtonian concepts is fairly tenuous, and
> certainly not essential.
>
> > That Planck's constant and the HUP are intrinsic to Nature
> > is made evident by setting H = constant whereof causality
> > is then completely absent. HUP interferes with the results
> > of an observation but is not a result of that observation.
>
> ??? But h *is* constant. I do not follow your argument here at all.

As is conventional, "H" is the Hamiltonian, whilst "h"
is Planck's constant. H = constant WRT position and
time signifies the absence of interactions or observations
whereof the intrinsic nature of HUP is unambiguous.

Thus, HUP interferes with the results of an observation
but is not a result of that observation.

> Zigoteau.

[Old Man]