Re: Reaching Light Speed,

From: Henri Wilson (H_at_..(Henri)
Date: 10/01/04 

Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 05:12:01 GMT

On 30 Sep 2004 06:16:23 -0700, pdraper@yahoo.com (Paul Draper) wrote:

>H@..(Henri Wilson) wrote in message news:<q0eml0530bc24hmpm850hndtuod6evb6h7@4ax.com>...
>> On 29 Sep 2004 05:11:54 -0700, pdraper@yahoo.com (Paul Draper) wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Uh, no. An observed fact is an observed fact, period, independent of
>> >any math or theory that predicts the same. The fact is, massless
>> >objects have always been observed to travel at the speed of light.
>>
>>
>> and which would they be?
>
>Neutrinos, photons. Meaured in accelerators, measured (w.r.t. each
>other) in supernovae).

Their masses have been shown to have an upper limit.

Size is not absolute. A mass of 10*-100000000000000000000000000 is no less
important than one of 10^100000000000000000000000000.

Seen any fractals lately?

>
>>
>> >It
>> >is fortunate for us that our theoretical models do also predict that
>> >massless objects travel at the speed of light. If they didn't, then
>> >confrontation with observed reality would dismiss the theoretical
>> >model as hogwash. However, if we at some point in the future observed
>> >a massless particle that traveled at a speed other than c, then we
>> >would immediately have do dismiss any theories that *require* that
>> >massless particles travel at c. Moreover, we would have to amend any
>> >theories that *assume* massless particles travel at c.
>> >
>> >Observed reality is king. Always.
>>
>> Except when it is delusional.
>
>No. Always. There have been mistakes in measurements, yes, or more
>frequently, a poor understanding of the precision of the measurement.
>But if you are proposing that what we see is a delusion...

I'm proposing that certain interpretations of what is seen are delusional.

HW.

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