Re: HOW FORD PLANS TO CUT AUTO EMISSIONS

From: hanson (hanson_at_quick.net)
Date: 10/11/04 

Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 16:30:10 GMT

"Dirk Bruere at Neopax" <dirk@neopax.com> wrote in message
news:2svosiF1qb1r3U1@uni-berlin.de...
> > news:2svl71F1qds3dU1@uni-berlin.de...
> >
> >>hanson citing a Ford news release:
> >>>>California adopted a regulation that will force automakers to reduce
> >>>>global warming emissions in the state by 30 percent by the 2016
> >>>>model year.
> >>>
> >>hanson wrote
> >>>So, what if that goal is not achieved? Does anyone really think that
> >>>Californians will go for bicycles, pedaling 8 hrs to work and another
> >>>8 hrs back.....ahahaha.... If there is a stop going to be put onto
> >>>new car sales in 2016.... then from then on Californians will drive
> >>>older and older cars that pollute more and more....ahahaha...
> >>>and at next election there will be initiatives to get rid of any politician
> >>>that is green.......ahahahaha....Californians maybe nutty but they
> >>>ain't crazy lunatics....well, the green shits amongst them of are.
> >>
> > [Dirk]
> >>I think the peak oil crisis will be well upon us by then, with oil at
> >>$100 a barrel. That should take care of it nicely.
> >
> > [hanson]
> > Right and wrong, Dirk. It's just a temporary crisis. Look at the history
> > of oil prices. They will not be over $30 by 2016, give or take inflation.
> > The current $spike is 90% due to commodity futures speculators and
> > 10% due to delays in production increases because of those
> > *contemporary* expansion demands from Indian & Chinese industries.
> > Oil is a money game, the biggest one there is. The oil itself is just the
> > gimmick. Hence, like in any other game, there are always ups & downs.
>
[Dirk]
> I doubt that China and India are going to slow economic growth over
> the next decade, barring nuclear war. That means 10% pa for China alone.
> And the problem is not fossil fuels in general, but cheap *oil*.
>
[hanson]
That 10% is peanuts and digestible **IF** the global show for what
you label as *oil* runs more or less smooth. The problem is and
has always been the very uneven (and perhaps unavoidable) income
distribution. When (as today, globally) CEOs do make 4000 to 10'000
times more income the average pay of their workers......then I am
sorry to say that such disparities do cause **NOT** smooth sailing.

I am glad that you see that "the problem is not fossil fuels in general"
as can and should be seen by every thinking person. The investment
division gets a half a dozen inquires every time I post this reminder:

......the long term future use of fossil fuel is assured!.....ahahahaha......
Don't hope for fossil oil to get scarce or to run out! Not a chance.
Ain't gonna happen. Listen. Initially, "they" say the earth had an
anaerobic envelope:~0 % O2. Present was only (relevant) CO2 and
Carbonates. Photosynth. etc. has liberated by now ~21% free O2 into
the air: That translates into ~1E+21 gr or ~1E+15 tons of available O2.
So, each 32 gr O2 buried somewhere 12-14 gr = 1 C (max CH4). Hence,
there is 1E+21 * 12/32 = 5E+20 gr or ~ 5.E+14 tons of fossil C in store,
buried somewhere. So, at a current use of 3E+15 gr/yr of oil, the fossil
stuff will be reoxydised in 5E+20 gr/3E+15 gr/yr =~ 1.5E+05 years!.

Alas, no EARLIER than in 150'000 years from now will all the fossil carbon
be burned. So, (addressing the green turds, enviro shits and all the happy
little green idiots) their cherished,green dooms day of now or tomorrow
will not arrive till after global warming is over and/or the next Ice age is
gone..........hahahahaha........ahahaha.......ahahahanson