Re: physics without math, a reality?
From: chris h fleming (chris_h_fleming_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 10/12/04
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Date: 12 Oct 2004 03:57:27 -0700
"richard miller" <richard@microscitech.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:<ckem5k$sde$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>...
> "walketd" <tans_taafl@hotmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:4169fd77$1_2@127.0.0.1...
> > So, I am a Senior Physics Major and I have been seriously considering
> > a topic for a paper which is can physics be understood without math,
> > and I would like people's opinions to my statements or just in
> > general, so here we go:
> >
> > Math was inherently produced by man, so therefore any constructs
> > assisting physics were produced by man as well. Could man understand
> > physics before math was invented?
>
> <deletage>
>
> Why does nature follow Math?
>
> It doesn't, there is only Math.
>
> Some of us (I know I'll get positively toasted for this post), would like to
> think that Nature is Math and nothing else. That way, we don't have to
> explain the remarkable predictive properties of Math explaining nature.
>
> Some might say Math gives us a a model of reality, others might say when we
> get there(unification) it won't just be a model, it will be the real thing.
>
> I can feel the flames already. What the heck, my mathematical model only
> gives me one life, and thats a few millenia too short.
>
> Richard Miller
There is still the explanatory gap of qualia - possibly the largest
and most important problem in philosophy. There is no certain
evidence/argument that qualia can be explained by mathematics or at
least current mathematics. And it seems to be related to many other
difficulties like
(1) nowness and time
(2) AI and the existence of qualia zombies
(3) the unreasonable ability to express the physical world in terms of
mathematics up until this gap
But perhaps you are defining "Nature" as to not include my subjective
experience.
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