Re: Resolving Kennedy's Assassination

From: S. Enterprize Company (smart1234_at_aol.com)
Date: 10/12/04 

Date: 12 Oct 2004 11:15:21 GMT

>>brodix@earthlink.net (brodix) wrote in message
>>news:<a09976c7.0410101558.351991e6@posting.google.com>...
>>> Adding to the conspiracy aspect of this forum...
>>
>>
>>> There were three primary wounds and two secondary wounds.
>>> The first shot struck Kennedy in the upper back and travelled at an
>>> upward trajectory, exiting out his neck.
>>
>>That's actually a downward trajectory, as it was the extreme upper
>>back, and JFK tended to slump.
>>
>>
>>
>>I don't recall any
>>> description of internal damage, but there were minor fragment wounds
>>> around the entry wound. This bullet apparently lodged in the window
>>> frame, next to the rearview mirror.
>>
>>No. Those fragments were tiny, and could just as easily have been
>>fragments from the final shot to the head, which fragmented badly.
>>
>>
>>> It seems likely that this bullet did not hit Kennedy directly, but
>>> struck directly behind him and ricoshetted at an upward angle.
>>
>>
>>No, it hit him directly, as shown by the very tiny and round entry
>>hole. The exit hole was destoyed by the trach, but witnesses testimony
>>suggests it was round as well.
>>
>>All these are probably the second shot Oswald fired. His first no
>>doubt hit a tree limb on the oak, and probably then the curb and
>>underpass down the street. I recommend a good reading of G. Posner's
>>_Case Closed_. (Posner only screws up once-- there is a picture
>>proving that 15 yo Oswald was in the Civil Air Patrol with Ferrie in
>>1955, weird as that may be).
>>
>>
>>> The second shot struck Connelly in the back and grazed a rib as it
>>> was exiting. This bullet then entered his leg and fell out on the
>>> hopital gurney. It was this bullet that the Warren Commision claimed
>>> had hit both Kennedy and Connelly, thus earning the "magic bullet"
>>> designation because it was in such good condition.
>>
>>
>>No, the magic moniker was because of a screwup in doing angles. But
>>when you get everybody placed right, it works. See Case Closed.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Even Connelly didn't believe this. According to an interview with Dan
>>> Rather that I saw, he said that after the first shot, he turned around
>>> and saw that Kennedy was hit. He turned back forward and was struck.
>>> He also said the third shot was louder than the first two.
>>
>>Alas, the Zapruder film shows Connelly is wrong. His lapel flips up
>>after the bullet goes through his chest, and you can see this before
>>JFK even exits from being hidden behind the Stemmons sign (where you
>>see he's been shot also). So Connelly is hit HERE, and it's with the
>>same bullet that hits JFK through the neck. Connelly doesn't glance
>>back until after this. Yes, it takes Connelly a few tenths of a second
>>to react to being shot, and probably even to feel it. But that's how
>>getting shot is.
>>
>>
>>
>>> One of the first two bullets also went through Kennedy's right wrist.
>>
>>No, that's Connelly's wrist, and it's the same magic bullet.
>>
>>
>>
>>> The third shot struck Kennedy in the head and caused massive damage
>>> to the right side. There were fragments in his brain that showed up on
>>> x-rays taken at the hospital.
>>> Presuming this bullet struck him in the back of the head. It must
>>> have fragmented on contact.
>>
>>
>>Correct.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> So there were five wounds. Four were the normal entry/exist wounds
>>> expected of a high-powered military round of the sort used in Oswald's
>>> rifle. The last one was caused by a round that fragmented completely
>>> on contact.
>>
>>
>>No. Tests with 6.5 mm ammo show that even 140 gr FMJ slugs like Oswald
>>used, can fragment completely in hitting something hard like a skull.
>>And yet can also go through a slabs of meat without being deformed,
>>but simply slowing a lot. Which happened with the JFK-neck
>>Connolly-chest bullet.
>>
>>>
>>> Consider that one of the memorable clues was that on the motorcycle
>>> dictagraph recording, the were three clear spikes that were clearly
>>> the result of gunshots, but a seventh of a second after the third
>>> shot, there was another spike that wasn't quite as prominant. This was
>>> held up as evidence of a fourth shot.
>>
>>
>>The dictabelt contains conversation that proves it didn't happen at
>>the time of the shooting, but later. It's irrelevent.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Earlier this summer, there was an episode of Histories Mysteries that
>>> was about the various photographers on the scene and the information
>>> that could be gleaned from them and their pictures. Toward the end of
>>> the show, one of them was describing how shocked he was as it
>>> happened. Then he said that when he felt the pressure of the third
>>> shot on his face, he knew it was for real.
>>>
>>> Of the conspiracy theories, the main contention has been that there
>>> was a shooter on the grassy knoll, behind the fence. The primary
>>> reason for this was because the acoustics made it sound as if the
>>> third shot had come from a different location and it was the closest
>>> possibility.
>>> Another reason was an apparent puff of smoke in one of the pictures.
>>> It should be noted that "smokeless gunpowder" had replaced black
>>> powder when modern guns replaced muzzle loaders.
>>
>>Which makes this idea especially dumb. Maybe they shot JFK with a
>>civil war Springfield muzzle loader and black powder??
>>
>>
>>> Another conspiracy theory is that Oswald had not actually been the
>>> one firing the gun, but had been set up.
>>
>>A man fitting Oswald's description was seen firing from the 6th floor
>>window. Oswald's description was broadcast, and that's why he was
>>stopped by Officer Tibbets (whom he certainly killed).
>>
>>
>>
>>>If you accept the possibility
>>> that the first shot ricoshetted, then the first two shots actually
>>> missed. This doesn't seem as though it would be the work of a
>>> professional.
>>
>>
>>Oswald wasn't a professional, though he did shoot well. His weapon
>>wasn't a pro weapon.
>>
>>
>>> Oswald had tried to kill a general some months previously and had
>>> missed with the one shot he fired. If this was his trial run, an
>>> obvious lesson would be not to count on only one shot.
>>
>>Yep. Read _Case Closed_
>>
>>SBH
>>
>
> Thanks to the FOIA we can finally see the truth of what occurred with the
>assassination of JKF. It was a conspiracy and it was film fraud.
>
>http://www.users.bigpond.com/costella/jfk/intro/fast.html
>
> You can even observe the autopsy pictures at the next link. It shows the
>back
>of JFK's head blown out, what is seen at the lower neck part of the front of
>his neck. Their report says that's where they made an incision to place an
>air
>tube. But they forgot to mention that there was a bullet hole in his clothes
>by
>his shirt and tie right at that location.
> When a bullet hits something it makes a small entrance hole and a large
>exit hole. The entrance hole had to have been from the front of JFK in the
>lower part of his neck and the exit wound at the upper part of his head. The
>autopsy shows half his brains blown out in the back of his head.
> Oswald couldn't have shot out the back of JFK's head if the exit wound was
>the back of his head. And a bullet doesn't bounce off Connally and then
>enters
>JFK's neck and blows out JFK's head.
> It wasn't the secret service driver of the limo because there was a
>bullet
>proof shield seen in front of Connally and his wife and JKF and his wife. It
>wasn't someone shooting a gun out in the lawn area because the entrance wound
>is from the front of JFK.
> If you observe the film, you can observe Jackie Kennedy lean over and
>appears to hug JFK BEFORE any shots were heard, then you see what appears to
>be
>something black fuzzy in her left hand pointing upper through the neck of
>JFK,
>then the next thing you see in the film is JFK's head fly backward and fake
>red
>paint on the film fly forward as his head flies backward. Then Jackie
>Kennedy's hand lowers. Everyone else seems surprized in the limo except
>Jackie
>face. She then crawls out of the limo.
> Later they dig up JFK's grave and dump him in the ocean. Why? I guess so
>they can't reexamine him for the true cause of his death. There were about 20
>witnesses to what they saw and they all died by accident, suicide or by some
>other unknown person.
> Right before Kennedy was assassinated, there were reports that he was
>going
>to expose some type of illegal activity in the CIA and some other government
>working in the USA possibly that had to do with drugs and Aliens from outer
>space. They classified some type of research at Rosewell as super secret when
>UFO's were sighted there.
> Reports state that JFK was going to expose all the illegal activity to
>the
>public that was occurring internally, so a conspiracy was made by what
>appears
>to be part of his own US govenrment workers like part of the CIA etc... . Why
>is it the CIA throughout history never has one court prosecution? And they
>can
>order assassinations of foreign officials like those in Cuba? They could have
>just as easily ordered the assassination of JFK. In fact, they did the same
>thing to Bin Ladin who was trained by the CIA to stop the Russian invasion of
>Afghanistan. It shows on the TV news that there was an order to assassinate
>Bin
>Laden BEFORE the World Trade Center 911 bombings.
> Bin Laden states a Declaration of War against the US right before the
>World
>Trade Center Bombing and Pentagon. He states on the document reasons for war.
>He says 600,000 children died because of some type of certain US government (
>probably CIA) dealings in Arab countries which was for oil and the invasion
>of
>two Holy Places. Other documents, (declassified and FOIA) show on Internet
>that
>Bin Laden refused to assist certain US government officials ( probably CIA)
>in
>taking the Arab Oil and they woundn't leave the 2 Holy Places in Arab
>countries.
> If you read NATO rules of war, any invasion of one country that makes up
>a
>whole of many countries is to be taken as a war against all their countries.
>Bin Laden appears to use the rules of NATO against the US. The next thing
>that
>happened was the NSA computers shut down ( according to a TV news report)
>which
>allowed time or an "open window" for attack of the World Trade Center and the
>Pentagon. How could Bin Laden have shut the NSA computers down? He wasn't
>that
>powerful. The Democrats and Senator John Kerry state George Bush new there
>was
>a suspicion of a planned attack of the World Trade Center, but ignored it.
>Why?
>Some say that this would give the US a way to blame Bin Laden for all the
>Arab
>problems including the Declaration of War against the US by the Arabs.
> Then Saddam Hussein is brought into this and was only involved in a UN
>inspection of WMD. Then the Bush Administration Bombs Iraq without UN
>approval.
>And then the US still didn't find any WMD there.
> Then Dirty Bombs were used DU ( Depleted Uranium). These are bombs filled
>with radioactive chemicals that kills people within a few months on a mass
>scale. This time of weapon is also against the UN's rules of war and the
>Geneva Conventions rules of war. They say no weapons can be used like
>biological, chemical or nuclear that causes the mass destruction of many
>innocent people not part of the war.
> Reports state CIA ordered the abuse of Iraq prisoners, and ONLY the
>military personal was prosecuted NOT the CIA. And other reports state that
>about 200,000 US troops either died or was treated for cancer. Well
>radioactivity causes cancer. Why wasn't the US troops properly prepared with
>the right gear to prevent radiation exposure? Why were these type bombs used
>to
>start with? Why was the war in Iraq started to start with? I think it was
>mostly for the oil because the people in Iraq shown on the news keep blowing
>up the oil there to keep the US from getting it.
>
>http://www.jfklancer.com/aphotos.html
>
> The UN Secretary General already stated the Iraq war was illegal. He has
>the power to take this to the World Court if he wants to. But he isn't? Why?
>Is
>the CIA going to assassinate him if he does? Or what?
>
> I think the CIA should be dismantled too, like one Senator said in
>Congress. But instead the Bush Administration ordered more power given to the
>CIA. Then they planed to put implants on soldiers to find out where they
>were.
>But this could also tell the enemy where they are too. The UN and the Geneva
>Conventions Rules of war says no type of tatoo can be used to identify a
>soldier. Well and implant is like a tatoo.
>
> The US has already been found guilty by the World Court on many other
>cases. I know I checked their cases. And now look at all of this illegal war
>activity under the Bush Administration.
>
> I am for the US, the UN and the Geneva Convention Rules of War. This is
>only
>certain people in the US doing all of this illegal activity. They should be
>the
>ones taking responsibility for this.
>

   According to UN, NATO and the Geneva Rules of War, no country is to develop,
stockpile or use weapons of mass destruction ( WMD), which includes biological,
chemical and nuclear, WMD. So why was it only Iraq was inspected for this by
the UN? Shouldn't all countries be made to remove these weapons too, which
includes Russia? Also underground nuclear bomb testing isn't suppost to be used
anymore, why are some countries are still doing this?

http://people.howstuffworks.com/rules-of-war7.htm

   I am all in favor of removing ALL Nuclear Weapons. What do we need them for?
If used, it could destroy millions (or billions) of people that may not even be
part of the war and it might even destroy this planet.
   
     I say the UN should inspect all countries including the US and Russia, for
WMD and have them removed. Maybe conventional warfare is ok, that is focused
ONLY on a few trouble makers in self defense. But why risk the destruction of
millions of men, women, children, elderly, and disabled for just a few "bad
apples" in government.

   I say peacefully demostrate and vote against ALL WMD in ALL countries, not
just Iraq.

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