Re: Relativity passes latest test in extremely difficult measurement of Lense-Thirring effect

From: greywolf42 (mingstb_at_marssim-ss.com)
Date: 10/26/04 

Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 01:45:10 GMT

"Myxococcus xanthus" <mold-guardian@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:ce5e7813.0410220053.294371c8@posting.google.com...
> ad <infradig-nospambalam@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
news:<MNXdd.8$pj.133@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au>...
> > Sam Wormley wrote:
> > >
> > > GTR accounts for the "force of gravity" as simply the curvature
> > > of spacetime. Changes (ripples) in the curvature of spacetime would
> > > propagate no faster than the speed of light. To date, there has
> > > NEVER been a prediction of the GTR that was contradicted by an
> > > observation. NEVER!
> > >
> >
> > Ever heard of DI Herculis (among others)? See:
> >
> > http://aa.springer.de/papers/8330002/2300533/small.htm
> >
> > Not proof of course.
>
> DI Herculis is VERY adequately explained if it is not a binary system,
> but a ternary system with the third component being a small star with
> 3% of the luminosity of the Sun and with an orbit separated from the
> main components by a maximum distance of 0.02 seconds of arc.

It's still a false claim, just like the last time you posted this, Myxo.

> See Khaliullin, Khodykin and Zakharov. Astrophysical Journal volume
> 375, p. 314 (1991)

KK&Z does not resolve the issue. Regardless of the claim that they do:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=10bpinvf8pmu544%40corp.supernews.com
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=10c1jstdkhmse89%40corp.supernews.com

> The 12th magnitude glow of this small star would be completely lost in
> the 8th magnitude glare of the two primaries.

Wrong again. The spectrum would be different, and quite resolvable.

> Long baseline optical interometry would be capable of resolving this
> star, but the Keck twin scopes are solidly booked for several years
> out. Observing time is EXCEEDINGLY competitive on the Keck scopes.
> Khaliullin emailed to me earlier this year that his request for an
> observing slot, like over 80% of all requests for Keck time, didn't
> make it past review.

Yeah. The official word was that they were too busy counting new plantary
systems. The unofficial reason is that non-observation is good.... because
this is a lose-lose proposition for GR.

> He is resubmitting, of course, but don't expect resolution of this
> problem for several years.

In the meantime, the Relativists will happily crow that AS Cam has been
"resolved". Until everyone forgets what the issue was.:) 

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