Re: FTL by Down-converting

From: RP (no_mail_no_spam_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 10/26/04 

Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 01:26:44 -0500

Morituri-Max wrote:
> RP wrote:
>
>> There is no difference between data and information. If the locally
>> recorded data is generated by an event at the opposite detector, then it
>> is necessarily useful information. If not useful information, then it
>> was generated either locally or at the source, from whence it propagated
>> at c to the detector. It's a phase wave. If it looks like a phase wave,
>> and smells like a phase wave, then its a phase wave.
>
>
> Sure there is a difference.. data is a string of bits.. information is a
> string of bits organized.
>
> Here...
>
> 010101011110101110111010110101010101001011110100101001010100100101110100100100100101001001001001010101011110101110111010110101010101001011110100101001010100100101110100100100100101001001001001
>
> 010101011110101110111010110101010101001011110100101001010100100101110100100100100101001001001001010101011110101110111010110101010101001011110100101001010100100101110100100100100101001001001001
>
> 010101011110101110111010110101010101001011110100101001010100100101110100100100100101001001001001010101011110101110111010110101010101001011110100101001010100100101110100100100100101001001001001
>
> 010101011110101110111010110101010101001011110100101001010100100101110100100100100101001001001001010101011110101110111010110101010101001011110100101001010100100101110100100100100101001001001001
>
> 010101011110101110111010110101010101001011110100101001010100100101110100100100100101001001001001010101011110101110111010110101010101001011110100101001010100100101110100100100100101001001001001
>
> 010101011110101110111010110101010101001011110100101001010100100101110100100100100101001001001001010101011110101110111010110101010101001011110100101001010100100101110100100100100101001001001001
>
> 010101011110101110111010110101010101001011110100101001010100100101110100100100100101001001001001
>
>
> okay, there is data.. now.. turn it into information.. tell me what is
> says..

It says that you haven't thought your argument through. All of these
bits were determined well
before they hit the screen. This is more than an analogy to the paradox.
Those same bits hit several screens virtually simultaneously. There was
no communication between those screens. My computer filtered the data
differently than some of the others, in the form of fonts used, thus
the 1's and 0's appear distinctly altered from the original and from
those on other screens. Consider this the torquing of polarization. The
information that the bits conveyed is whether your finger struck a 1 or
a 0, and that information derived from the source, not from the other
screens. If I receive so much as one bit from another detector via
coupling, then I can send back one bit, whose value we've predetermined
is an instruction for you to not hit that key, before you did, thus
violating causality. It's a statistical result you say. Well hurrah, so
does Bell say, and so what. How many bits can be sent in a time less
than r/c? How many are required to extract a definite pattern from? The
OP was correct, thus he was incorrect :)

It's a phase wave.

Richard Perry

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