Re: Is Einstein's Principle of Equivalence true?

From: John C. Polasek (jpolasek_at_cfl.rr.com)
Date: 11/05/04 

Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 03:38:20 GMT

On 4 Nov 2004 15:41:00 -0800, dynamics@vianet.on.ca (Ken S. Tucker)
wrote:

>John C. Polasek <jpolasek@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message news:<9kfko0115dssvstgjvpqlsgsn7i2749gko@4ax.com>...
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>[...]
>
>> I feel a powerful urge to respond once again, but I'm trying to quit.
>> Let this last correspondence be a test of my resolve.
>
>For someone in an elevator bouncing a light ray
>up and down in a g-field they find,

Ken: It's too sloppy: talk of bouncing up and down. A light ray
retains its frequency and energy that it had at origination. Therefore
you must take into account initial conditions of origination.
Suppose it originated at infinity and it enters the well (below). JP

> c = f*w = frequency*wavelength
>
>Someone observing that at a different potential
>given by,
>
> g_00 = 1-2m/r
>
>will observe
>
> c' = f'*w'
>
> c' = g_00 c , f' = f*sqrt(g_00) , w' = w*sqrt(g_00)

No, all I can get from the timlike SMetric is
         dtau/dt = sq(g00) = 1 - m/r
and from SM distance
        dsig/dr = 1/sq(g00) =1/(1-m/r) = 1 + m/r.

I don't care to take the trouble to learn how to extract the
quantities c', f' and w' from these two element, which you quote. I
don't see how you get your results. JP

>These are fairly well confirmed by experiment.

Dual Space has a clean and simple approach to redshift as below:

A second redshift experiment besides Pound Rebka, was Brault's (MTW
Grav.pg 1059) in which he looked at the D1 sodium line in the sun. Did
he check for dF? Did he check for dL? No, his results were in terms of
"Doppler-like" velocity!

It is the same velocity that my equation computes:
         dc/dr = MG/r^2c (c increases with radius)
It indicates that c decreases into a gravity well from infinity. .
Integrate from infinity to the radius and
        Dc = -MG/rc
        Dc = -635 m/s for the Sun, -0.208 m/s for Earth

Brault was able to "bracket" between 590-720 m/s, using ingenious
equipment to defeat the noise. He would have seen a redshift as the
wave stretched on the way out of the well. I believe that supports my
viewpoint on redshift.

>
>Ok, no essay
>Ken

If you have something to say, write an equation.
If you have nothing to say, write an essay

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