RFC 1036: The References header defines the thread.

From: Jeff_Relf (Me_at_Privacy.NET)
Date: 11/15/04


Date: 15 Nov 2004 11:13:31 GMT


Hi Rick, You wrote: " that is a Message-ID and not a link. "

Stardard newsreaders make MIDs links when they're prefaced with news: ,
if your newsreader won't do that then just paste it into Google.

You wrote: << nowhere in that message is there any reference that says
  RFC 1036 says anything about sorting by Message-ID. >>

Although you are probably too ineducable to reallize this,
Google violates of RFC 1036 ( quoted below )
by omitting the References header when a title changes: <<
  2.2.5. References
    This field lists the Message-ID's of any messages prompting the
    submission of this message. >> ... <<
    If the original message does have a " References "
    line, the follow-up message should have a " References " line
    containing the text of the original " References " line,
    a blank, and the Message-ID of the original message. >>
  __ http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1036.html

Combine the above with this from son of RFC 1036: <<
  If the poster determines that
  the topic of the followup differs significantly
  from what is described in the subject,
  a new, more descriptive, subject SHOULD be substituted
  ( With No Back Reference ). >> ^^^^^^
    ^^^^ ^^ ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^
   __ http://www.usenet-fr.net/fr-chartes/son-of-rfc1036.2.html

Where the term, " back reference " is defined as
the " Re: " tag at the start of a title,
...Not the References: line in the headers.

Thus one finds that Google violates RFC 1036
by mandating something more akin to this: <<
  Because the title of a message MUST define the thread,
  One MUST use " Re: " at the start of a title,
  ...Otherwise we MUST delete the References line. >>

You wrote: << I pay Federal income taxes.
  Some Federal monies, funded by Federal income taxes, go to the states,
  and some of that is used in state welfare programs. >>

So what ? I have exactly nothing to do with that.
No incluence at all.



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