Re: Ben Goodger knows that, Linus knows that... how about you ?

From: Jeff_Relf (Me_at_Privacy.NET)
Date: 11/20/04 

Date: 20 Nov 2004 17:39:17 GMT

Hi Rick, You asked me: <<
  So, you are saying, people read my posts and not yours. >>
  
I get far more replies, from far more people,
than I can handle, especially in light of the fact that
I should be working ( not playing on Usenet ) right now.

Roy Culley and a few idiots like him openly want me gone,
but I find these people merely pathetic weaklings,
unable to control themselves or their browsing habits
( aside from the fact that they've never been able to directly confront me ).

You wrote: << AND AGAIN, you idiot...
  WinXP was not around in the time period being discussed. >>

The time period I'm discussing is 1960 to 2040... obviously.
Tom and Bailo are wowed by Java and C#, late commers in my book.
My perspective is much deeper than that.
Coding has been my Sole profession since the start of 1982,
I've been coding since the mid 70s,
and my professinal code has roots that go back 40 years, to 1964.

And I'm still delivering code that I personally write and test.

Re: Paul Maritz's statement that
  " Windows will become devalued, eventually replaceable "

That would be true if it didn't fully integrate the internet
into MS Windows, it doesn't say that Java and Netscape
would dethrone Windows' position on the desktop.

By the way, Not only is Maritz not Bill Gates,
he doesn't even work for Microsoft anymore.

Re: Bill Gates, May 26, 1995 <<
  A new competitor 'born' on the Internet is Netscape. Their browser is
  dominant with 80% usage, allowing them to determine which network
  extensions will catch on. They are pursuing a multi-platform strategy
  where they move key API into the client {browser) to commoditize the
  underlying operating system. >>
  __ Microsoft File page 235

Right, MS Windows would in fact lose value if it didn't
integrate with the internet... Bill knew that, and he took action.

Thanks to IE's integration with WinXP ( e.g. FTP ),
my web site looks and acts just like any other folder on my hard disk.

Can FireFox do that ? !

Thanks to IE's integration with WinXP ( e.g. GuruNet ),
I have a one-click dictionary/encylopedia
that works from within Visual Studio.NET.

Can FireFox do that ? !

FireFox is fan-fucking-tasktic, but it doesn't begin to replace
VS.NET, MS Office or IE-automation... nor could it ever replace them.

FireFox is Netscape's sole successor, by the way,
no other forks are any good... Hows that ? Live and learn, I say.
( Or, in your case Rick, repeat the same old mistakes of the late 90s )

You wrote: <<
  Schwartz also introduced sworn testimony from a top Microsoft executive,
  who said the software giant worried Netscape was a "complete competitor"
  because its browser might "replace the operating system"
  if it gained wide acceptance. >>
And you quoted: <<
  " As far as I'm concerned, they were
    a complete competitor to the operating system, "
  Microsoft senior vice president Jim Allchin said
  in deposition transcripts made public today.
  Although Netscape's Navigator was only
  a program running on top of Windows and other platforms,
  Allchin worried it might quickly
  " replace the operating system "
  if software developers began writing applications using
  the borrower's programming interfaces.
  " When it started out it was just an application,"
  Allchin said in the deposition, which was taken in March of this year.
  " In a blink of an eye, it became a platform. " >>
http://news.com.com/2100-1001-218545.html?tag=rn

Right, " in a blink of an eye " you'd say the exact same thing
if your ass was on the line like that: <<
  Oh no judge ! We have Tons of competition,
  just look at Netscape which has a ( mumble, utterly schizophrenic, mumble )
  market value of 6+ billion. >>

I know that Bailo was financially destroyed by such insanities,
did the same thing happend to you Rick ? !

You quoted: <<
  This alarmed Microsoft, which feared that Navigator's enthusiastic
  reception could embolden Netscape to develop Navigator into an alternative
  platform for applications development. In late May 1995, Bill Gates,
  the chairman and CEO of Microsoft, sent a memorandum entitled
  " The Internet Tidal Wave " to Microsoft's executives
  describing Netscape as a " new competitor ' born ' on the Internet. "
  He warned his colleagues within Microsoft that Netscape was
  " pursuing a multi-platform strategy
    where they move the key API into the client
    to commoditize the underlying operating system. "
  By the late spring of 1995, the executives responsible for
  setting Microsoft's corporate strategy were deeply concerned
  that Netscape was moving its business in a direction
  that could diminish the applications barrier to entry. >>
  __ http://www.inforingpress.com/us-vs-ms/court-case-19.htm
  
Since the above is a repeat, I'll do the same:

  MS Windows would in fact lose value if it didn't
  integrate with the internet... Bill knew that, and he took action.

  Thanks to IE's integration with WinXP ( e.g. FTP ),
  my web site looks and acts just like any other folder on my hard disk.

  Can FireFox do that ? !

  Thanks to IE's integration with WinXP ( e.g. GuruNet ),
  I have a one-click dictionary/encylopedia
  that works from within Visual Studio.NET.

  Can FireFox do that ? !

  FireFox is fan-fucking-tasktic, but it doesn't begin to replace
  VS.NET, MS Office or IE-automation... nor could it ever replace them.

  FireFox is Netscape's sole successor, by the way,
  no other forks are any good... Hows that ? Live and learn, I say.
  ( Or, in your case Rick, repeat the same old mistakes of the late 90s )
  
You don't know the future Rick,
because you don't/can't/won't understand the past.

This is Your problem Rick, and You are paying for that, not me.