Re: Time is a Property of Matter?
From: Y.Porat (maporat_at_012.net.il)
Date: 11/22/04
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Date: 21 Nov 2004 23:21:30 -0800
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> > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch
> > > > > > ---------------
> > > > > > Time' is nothing but :
> > > > > > motion (or translation) comparison - to a chosen motion reference.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > it is not an independant physical entity as mass
> > > > >
> > > > > It is part of the larger entity of space-time
> > > > ---------------
> > > > you took a simplw phenomena that can be just by relative motion
> > > > and nothing else
> > > > and complicated it even by ivolving other unnecessary elements
> > > > have you heared about Ocams razor' ???
> > > > do you deny that you can define time just by motion comparison????
> > > > do you deny that while you are taalking about time
> > > > you just talk about comparing a certain motion
> > > > to the motion say ... of the sun??? or an electron in the
> > > > electronic clock???
> > > > --------
> > > > >
> > > > > If it does not exist in empty space then there could be no
> > > > > space-time curvature; no slowdown of time in gravity absolutely everywhere.
> > > > > But there is.
> > > > -----------
> > > > bingo you got it ...... (:-)
> > > > do you have 'curvature of space without having any particle in it?
> > > > do you know for sure that the theory of curved space
> > > > is completely verified??
> > > > has it occured to you that for instance a photon bends next to the sun bacause..
> > > > the photon has mass ????!!!
> > > > may be all your set of logic is wrong, and not mine ???
> > > > our teachers at school always told us :
> > > > dont be a parrot.... use your own mind as well!!!
> > > > Y.Porat
> > > > -------------
> >
> > > > ------------------
> > > >
> > > > > >> all the best
> > > > > > Y.,Porat
> > > > > > ---------------
> > >
> > > You're a joke Porat.
> > > Time slows down in gravity. That has been proven even if
> > > curved space hasn't.
> > > We're talking about time arn't we? It's everywhere.
> > >
> > > Mitch Raemsch -- Time Moves --
> > -----------------
> > careful while you are talking about Jokeres .....
> > time slows down in gravity .....'
> > so ?.............
> > how do you know and detect it ?????!!!!!
> > is it not by some moving object ???
> > you will have to eat a ship full of of potatos before finding me as a joke ...
> > (provided i do not make myself willingly a joker. and sometimes i do (;-))
> > -----------
> > Y.Porat
> > --------------------
>
> You're a joke because you won't get the point Porat.
> Time slows down in gravity regardless of anything moving. It can be still
> and time is slower. Get it?
> I know time is not independent of space and is therefor everywhere.
> It doesn't need to be meausered or detected in order to be there.
> Mitch Raemsch -- Light Falls --
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Mitch
lets put aside the pesonal 'remarks' and concentate on argoments alone !!
you say :
'Time slows down in gravity regardless of anything moving'
now as you know in scince it is not enough to make dectaratins
things has to be proven so .........???
i dont beleive you about it !
can you(or anyone else-
just for not to be 'personal' ) prove your above statement ??
TIA
Y.Porat
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