Re: Time is a Property of Matter?

From: Mitchell (macromitch_at_internetCDS.com)
Date: 11/22/04 

Date: 22 Nov 2004 12:40:18 -0800

maporat@012.net.il (Y.Porat) wrote in message news:<4e35159f.0411212321.352bf48e@posting.google.com>...
> m news:<4e35159f.0411162252.49273e27@posting.google.com>...
> >
> > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch
> > > > > > > ---------------
> > > > > > > Time' is nothing but :
> > > > > > > motion (or translation) comparison - to a chosen motion reference.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > it is not an independant physical entity as mass
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It is part of the larger entity of space-time
> > > > > ---------------
> > > > > you took a simplw phenomena that can be just by relative motion
> > > > > and nothing else
> > > > > and complicated it even by ivolving other unnecessary elements
> > > > > have you heared about Ocams razor' ???
> > > > > do you deny that you can define time just by motion comparison????
> > > > > do you deny that while you are taalking about time
> > > > > you just talk about comparing a certain motion
> > > > > to the motion say ... of the sun??? or an electron in the
> > > > > electronic clock???
> > > > > --------
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If it does not exist in empty space then there could be no
> > > > > > space-time curvature; no slowdown of time in gravity absolutely everywhere.
> > > > > > But there is.
> > > > > -----------
> > > > > bingo you got it ...... (:-)
> > > > > do you have 'curvature of space without having any particle in it?
> > > > > do you know for sure that the theory of curved space
> > > > > is completely verified??
> > > > > has it occured to you that for instance a photon bends next to the sun bacause..
> > > > > the photon has mass ????!!!
> > > > > may be all your set of logic is wrong, and not mine ???
> > > > > our teachers at school always told us :
> > > > > dont be a parrot.... use your own mind as well!!!
> > > > > Y.Porat
> > > > > -------------
>
> > > > > ------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > > >> all the best
> > > > > > > Y.,Porat
> > > > > > > ---------------
> > > >
> > > > You're a joke Porat.
> > > > Time slows down in gravity. That has been proven even if
> > > > curved space hasn't.
> > > > We're talking about time arn't we? It's everywhere.
> > > >
> > > > Mitch Raemsch -- Time Moves --
> > > -----------------
> > > careful while you are talking about Jokeres .....
> > > time slows down in gravity .....'
> > > so ?.............
> > > how do you know and detect it ?????!!!!!
> > > is it not by some moving object ???
> > > you will have to eat a ship full of of potatos before finding me as a joke ...
> > > (provided i do not make myself willingly a joker. and sometimes i do (;-))
> > > -----------
> > > Y.Porat
> > > --------------------
> >
> > You're a joke because you won't get the point Porat.
> > Time slows down in gravity regardless of anything moving. It can be still
> > and time is slower. Get it?
> > I know time is not independent of space and is therefor everywhere.
> > It doesn't need to be meausered or detected in order to be there.
> > Mitch Raemsch -- Light Falls --
> --------------
> Mitch
> lets put aside the pesonal 'remarks' and concentate on argoments alone !!
> you say :
> 'Time slows down in gravity regardless of anything moving'
> now as you know in scince it is not enough to make dectaratins
> things has to be proven so .........???
>
> i dont beleive you about it !
> can you(or anyone else-
> just for not to be 'personal' ) prove your above statement ??
> TIA
> Y.Porat
> ------------------

'Time slows down in gravity regardless of anything moving'
You may not believe me. That is fine.
But GPS proves it.

Atomic clocks run slower closer to the earth Porat.
And they're not moving in the gravitational field.
What more do you want?
The slowdown of time must be extended from motion to
include gravity. That is why you have it wrong.

If gravity is space moving then you would have to be right
about the whole thing.
Mitch Raemsch -- Light Falls --

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