Re: Gravitational Time Porat

From: Mitchell (macromitch_at_internetCDS.com)
Date: 11/29/04 

Date: 29 Nov 2004 15:55:32 -0800

maporat@012.net.il (Y.Porat) wrote in message news:<4e35159f.0411282357.1cf80166@posting.google.com>...
> macromitch@internetCDS.com (Mitchell) wrote in message news:<9c3da975.0411281319.727cd54d@posting.google.com>...
> > maporat@012.net.il (Y.Porat) wrote in message news:<4e35159f.0411280035.5d387a93@posting.google.com>...
> > movement.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch -- Light Falls --
> > > > > > > -----------------
> > > > > > > ok we start to agree
> > > > > > > but a little correction (inho)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > not just the movement itself and alone but :
> > > > > > > *movement comparison to some chosen movement *reference*
> > > > > > > my assertion is on the *comparison* of those movements
> > > > > > > it is something *relative* not an independant physical entity.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I don't believe motion slows time Porat but change in motion alone
> > > > > > slows time.
> > > > >
> > > > > now how do you know there is a change in motion ????
> > > > >
> > > > > you know it only if ..... you *compare* it to some referenc emotion right ?
> > > >
> > > > No. There is a difference. Only the twin that accelerates will feel weight.
> > > > That difference gives away who changed motion.
> > > ----------------------
> > > ??????
> > >
> > > 1 i though twe are dealing with time not with weight
> > > what is your connection between weight and time?
> >
> > It should be pointed out that when there is accelerated motion
> > there is weight;
> ---------------
> i thought that when there is acceleration motion there is *force*
> in general not just weight
> weight is just a private case.?
> now what is that to do with time?
> if acceleration cuases change in motion
> iot causes change in 'time'
> now do you whant to suggest that *weight* is a tool to measure time??!!
> if yes - how ?
> 2 even if you have a syetem to mesure time by wight ??
> than it does not contradict to measure it by *comparison of movement*
> to the external chosen motion refference.
> and it certainly cannot be without motion and comparison of motion.
>
> 3 why complicatse simple things ??
Let's not.
Whats the problem? I just pointed out that when things accelerate
they experience weight in the oposite direction of their motion excluding
freefall in gravity.

Mitch Raemsch

>
> excluding freefall. This part of the equivalence
> > principle does not seem to be talked about - weight and change in
> > motion. Speed up and you'll always experience weight.
> >
> > > 2 the motion reference i talk about is *external* to the sytem
> > > we test
> > > Y.Porat
> > > ----------------

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