Re: Proof for the existence of telepathy (schizophrenia as neurosis)

djbonsignore_at_beethoven.com
Date: 12/15/04 

Date: 15 Dec 2004 12:22:10 -0800

Keeping this thread alive

Fabrizio J. Bonsignore wrote:
> If telepathy exists, severe schizophrenics (hearing voices) are very
> popular (or impopular) people at the moment or before the illness
> starts, while mild schizophrenics would be rather solitary or unknown
> people. This can be correlated statistically through clinical
> histories.
>
> The idea was of course suggested by A Beautiful Mind. A huge
> intelligence, if correlated to a more efficient use of brain
> resources, would be more likely to have, lets call it the framework
to
> tune other minds, independently of the way the signals are
transmitted
> (see possibility of telepathy in my other posts). If that person goes
> famous the quantity of information received through this channel
would
> be such that a severe schizophrenia would be manifest, although a
high
> intelligence would be able to handle the information overload without
> breaking his ability to interact with others. Given that envy is one
> of the most powerful human motives, short of love and downright hate,
> a famous or popular person that is receiving the thoughts of others
> would receive lots of negative thoughts, most of them envious
> appreciations of the true personality. If coupled with a soft
> character that depends on what others think, an overload of
telepathic
> jealous thoughts would lead to suicide, though this can be true even
> if there is no overload but the receptive individual is constantly in
> the mind of a judging somebody else.
>
> Schizophrenia, or telepathy, may be more common than we admit because
> of the fear of being called a schizo, psychotic. It may well be that
> successful telepaths learned ways to avoid the extraneous channel
from
> disrupting their everyday life, while unsuccessful telepaths would
> allow telepathy to interrupt their normal lives and would then show
> the normal symptoms like speaking alone, distraction, impossibility
to
> concentrate or understand a conversation, etc.
>
> If the hypothesis holds, schizophrenia can be treated as a neurosis,
> an adaptation problem, through social deprivation and/or by
distancing
> from the community where the individual is well known.
>
> The merit of this hypothesis is that it can investigated by revising
> the current accumulated corps of clinical studies through the use of
> statistics.
>
> > I have perceived numerous instances of telepathy-
> > and acted successfully in some instances because of them.
> > But maybe it is something you have to let happen
> > rather than make happen, and as such maybe it can't be
> > controlled. Or probably one has to be able to control
> > one's own thoughts before being able to perceive which
> > are one's own and which are the other's.
> > John
> Thoughts distinguish themselves clearly. One morning I was very
asleep
> when I heard my mother yell my name with so much desperation that I
> woke up immediately and jumped out of the bed to the kitchen, only to
> find that she was frustrated opening the cat food can. The fact is
> that both doors were closed and I heard her yell very clearly as if
> she was in the room. I heard it in the back of my head. I woke up so
> fast that I could distinguish that what I `heard` was not sound. She
> looked befuddled when I told her that she had awaken me only to feed
> the cats...
>
> > jhelfand@umd.edu (Joe) wrote in message
> > news:<e62610ea.0410091354.2f13ef17@posting.google.com>...
> > As someone who has had some dealing with schizophrenia, and
> > schizophrenics, I have to say I found no evidence of telepathy.
This
> > included for example being involved with some research at NIH and
> > their inpatient study on schizophrenics (or more specifically
people
> > diagnosed with schizophrenia, or specifically people diagnosed by
> > DOCTORS, or even more simply, one group of people calling another
> > group of people a name, and that group turning around and calling
the
> > other group a name). Although I was involved with some of their
> > research with MRI, PET scan, MEG, EEG, eye scan, medication
changes,
> > and other various tests, I actually probably spent more time on the
> > psych ward interacting with the patients and the nurses than
directly
> > with the researchers really. (For the time I was there.) I still
> > keep in touch with some of the patients over e-mail and other ways,
> > not so the reseaarchers. But anyway, I didn't find any evidence
for
> > telepathy to say. I did though become curious in "hearing voices".

> > For example, does John Edwards "hear voices" when he talks to the
> > dead? Do the people of the 700 club, when they get their "word of
> > knowledge" hear voices? etc.
>
> You actually tested the hypothesis of telepathy? What do you consider
> evidence? Because you didn`t experimenting somebody `reading` your
> thoughts doesn`t mean the phenomenon doesn`t exist. That`s why I am
> proposing a study that can bring light on the subject or dismiss it
> completely for all time. But it must be performed by really
> intelectually honest people for there interests to dismiss pr prove
> false this interpretation. Non telepaths would feel jealous, real
> telepaths may want to hide the fact (and their advantage), armies and
> policemen would prefer to keep it secret if it is one of their secret
> weapons, psychiatrists would resist change, parapsychologists would
> lose their research grants, common people or others would feel
scared,
> etc.
>
> Danilo J Bonsignore
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