Re: How many things can happen in a single instant?

From: Zeso (nospam_at_nospam.com)
Date: 12/17/04 

Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 13:15:34 -0600

"Mike Helland" <mobydikc@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1103302684.122163.68490@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> This seems to be a standard assumption people have:
>
> "If time did not exist, no event occurred."

You error lies in "occurred" which implies it took time for the event to
"occur"

>
> As you may know this the opposite of how I view things. Instead I would
> say:
>
> "If no event occured, time does not exist."

No, You are assuming a one to one mapping across two different dimensional
quanties.
If 6 turned out to be 9, would 9 be 6? Perhaps not.

> So time is not a medium for change.

This has no logical flow from your previous statements.

> It is not a continuum, and its not
> even really a dimension. It is the analysis that something has changed.
> It exists in the subjective conscious experience of an observer. This
> is consistent with special relativity's definition that "time is what a
> clock measures", with the implications of quantum mechanics and string
> theory, and with what recent developments in the field have suggested.
>
> In other words, time is not a prerequisite for something happening, it
> is a result of something happening.

Wrong. time dosent care about your "happenings"

>
> There's an easy way to wrap your head around this.
>
> Let's take the following situation with bleacher seats. Imagine you
> have a stadium, and there are four people (A1-A4) sitting in a single
> row:
>
> ___A1_A2_A3_A4
>
> And in the next row, are four more people (B1-B4), but sitting one seat
> to the left, so we have:
>
> ___A1_A2_A3_A4
> B1_B2_B3_B4
>
> Finally, there is a third row, and those people (C1-C4) are sitting one
> seat to the right of the original row. This is our picture:
>
> ___A1_A2_A3_A4
> B1_B2_B3_B4
> ______C1_C2_C3_C4
>
> We now make the following rules:
>
> 1. Consider that movement and time in the stadium is discrete

You mean assume they are discrete

>
> We know that from quantum mechanics and Planck's Constant, such a
> suggestion might actually apply to nature

Like to a Statium?

>
> 2. Since time is discrete, consider that the smallest, indivisible
> interval of time is the time it takes to move one seat, and this
> interval is called an instant

Wrong, Instant means not time at all. Are you are talking about "time
atoms"?

<snip>

> If you disagree with me, you are essentially saying that "more than one
> thing may happen in one instant of time."
>
> I see no reason to accept that as a fact (nor, as a consequence, any of
> the physics that is built on that assumption).
>
> That leaves me with one question:
>
> Why do you accept the fact that many things may occur in a single
> instant?

Well, I am thinking all the time, and you are not, so you must be right.
In fact, you must be switched off most all the time.

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