Re: Virtual Particles and Light Duality principle

From: Franz Heymann (notfranz.heymann_at_btopenworld.com)
Date: 01/03/05 

Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 09:39:17 +0000 (UTC)

"Emwizsoon" <emwizsoon@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1104702030.136314.164330@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

> I know. All I'm saying is that we use probability waves because
> we don't know how electrons behave around the nucleus.

QM predicts everything which can be observed about athe details of
atomic structure.

Waffling about "how electrons behave aroiund the nucleus" is nonsense,
because those details are not amenable to observed. QM gives
quantitative answers to any question relating to any actual possible
observation

> I mean,
> when JJ Thomson discovered electrons were around the nucleus.

JJ thomson thought the atom was like a plum pudding. The idea of a
mini solar system came later.

> Scientists couldn't imagine how they move

Balls. I bet you got that crap from that midden heap of a link which
you keep quoting.
Bohr imagined the electrons to move in classical orbits constrained
to having angular momenta of integral units of Planck's constant.

> and bond with other atoms,

 so they used the quantum probability cloud function model.

That came long after the Bohr model, only after it was shown that the
Sommerfeld elliptical orbits led to wrong predictions.

> But if particles are really some kind of standing wave,

Particles are, to the best of our knowledge, point objects. The wave
determines their dynamics.
I say, by the way you keep parroting what you find in that miserable
website instead of assimilating any knowledge rather gives the lie to
this bit of adolescent braggadocio in your sig:

Quote, with disgust
"Major in Psychology (I have sufficient logic and intellect to
understand anything so don't let me wait for 7 years to
> analyze them)"
End of quote, just before puking

> then the
> entire electron clouds are just standing waves of somekind.
> Disprove this by precise scientific arguments.

Particles are, to the best of our knowledge, point objects. The wave
determines their dynamics.

> http://www.blazelabs.com/f-p-swave.asp

That url is horse dung. Here, for ther delectations is another
excerpt from that same url

(The author has just written a long page of *** linking electrons in
an atom to a bunch of platonoc figures, and then concludes:

It follows that the smallest entity which can have all characteristics
of a particle should be one the simplest of the basic platonics
described above. If this entity is unique, then it must be one whose
dual is itself, and which has got its analogue existing in all
dimensions. There is just one platonic satisfying this criteria and
this is the Tetrahedron (in 3D), called the Simplex in 4D.

That is festering cameldung.

I say, are you flogging that site because tou are paid to, or did you
write that awful *** yourself?

Franz

>
> Emwi
> Major in Psychology (I have sufficient logic and intellect to
> understand anything so don't let me wait for 7 years to
> analyze them)
>

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