Re: Proof for E=mc2

From: John Schoenfeld (j.schoenfeld_at_programmer.net)
Date: 01/17/05 

Date: 17 Jan 2005 09:43:41 -0800

Uncle Al wrote:
> Androcles wrote:
> >
> > "Uncle Al" <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote in message
> > news:41E83927.78169BE5@hate.spam.net...
> > > Androcles wrote:
> > >>
> > >> "Uncle Al" <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote in message
> > >> news:41E7F93C.64239966@hate.spam.net...
> > >> > KaliKinkar wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Is there a standard proof for E=mc2 and how was it derived
from
> > >> >> the
> > >> >> SR?
> > >> >
> > >> > It is a trivial derivation from SR. Look it up.
> > >>
> > >> It is a trivial derivation from Newtonian Mechanics. Look it up,
> > >> shithead.
> > >> Androcles
> > >
> > > OK. Post the citation.
> >
> > You back again, shithead? Look it up. I'll give you a hint,
> > J.G. Fox, Jan 1965.
> > You are such a ugly *** that's all I'll do for you. Find the
journal
> > yourself.
> > Androcles
>
> > The largest physical science library west of
> > the Mississippi is ten miles down the road from me. I'll
photocopy,
> > scan, and post a link to edify all readers in sci.physics
> >
> > C'mon, Androcles, show us your Jane Thomas.
>
> WHAT IS WRONG, FUCKING IMBECILE ANDROCLES, CAN'T YOU REFERENCE A
> DERIVATION OF E=MC^2 FROM NEWTONIAN PHYSICS AS YOU CLAIMED?
>
> Getting E=mc^2 without the four-vector ought to be interesting.

Newton's work states that F = dp/dt where constant mass was explicitly
not assumed by Newton. If Einstein never existed then from experimental
data the mass rate of change would've eventually been curve-fitted to:

dm/dv = p / (c^2 - v^2) {V = velocity, v = |V| }

and reduced to:

dm/dv = y^2 p B/c { y = 1/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2), B = v/c }
from which the entirety of special relativity can be derived.

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