Re: Quaran: And The Theory of Everything
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Date: 01/20/05
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Date: 20 Jan 2005 11:25:53 -0800
Alphonse wrote:
> Mark L. Fergerson wrote:
>
> Well, friend it was not basically an attempt to justify Quran by
> extracting scientific data from Quran, neither was it an attempt to
> justify science by comparing it with Quran. And this really had
nothing
> to do with "bettering" people. (To be honest I was surprised when I
> came accross that link myself. So you can understand how trifling is
my
> own knowledge regarding both Quran and SR to have posted it in the
way
> I did.) But then why at all did I post the message here in this group
> may be a question which I really cannot provide you with any
> satisfactory answer. I wanted to know everyone's opinion on this fact
> that long before Einstein, Quran did provide some hints towards SR
and
> GR. The way I presented it vexed many. I would like to apologise if I
> have hurt anyone's feelings. But I cannot accept the way these great
> fellows, these great men of learning reacted to that. I didn't intend
> to hurt anyone. I wanted to stop the topic due to two reasons 1. I do
> not have sufficient knowledge of Quran
now you know more don't you? quran says nothing about relativity,
only some laymen trying to forcefully connect dots which don't exist.
if the theory changes tomorrow that these laymen would also try to
connect quran with science.
and to be honest, if it was talking about relativity, why doesn't it
just say directly that objects travelling at high speeds will
experience shorter times. in your posting, nothing is said about angels
travelling at high speed or anything remotely connected to relativity.
only some guy decided to say 'the angels can travel up to the speed of
light'.
> 2. I was disappointed by the way
> these great physicists reacted (I am not using the word "great"
> mockingly, they indeed are great).
you were preaching, not merely asking for people's opinion. let's see
what you wrote:
"Theory of relativity both SR and GR can be found in Quaran
http://islam.speed-light.info/relativity_quran.htm
The theory of everything is also in there.
Find out more.
Read Quaran."
if you indeed only wanted to ask an opinion you would have asked "i
found this information on the web, what are your opinions of it? is
there anything substantial to it" ... and when your cornered you
pretend to play innocent. you are a disingenuous person Alphonse.
[snip]
> There is an
> infinite multitude of processes in that abrupt moment which escape
us.
> An intellect which could see cause and effect as a continuum, which
> could see the flux of events not according to our mode of perception,
> as things arbitrarily separated and broken - would throw aside the
> conception of cause and effect, and would deny all conditionality.
okay then go ahead and follow your idol harun yahya, who doesn't
know anything about the sciences. how can he? he was only educated as a
philosopher (and not very good at that), yet claims to know more
biology and physics than people who actually study and do research on
these subjects...
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