Re: Nobel Prize for David Thomson?!

From: Ranando King (rk_at_magictouchcorp.com)
Date: 01/21/05 

Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:39:18 -0600

"David Thomson" <news5@volantis.org> wrote in message
news:hNGHd.64$es.6889@news.uswest.net...
> "Ranando King" <rk@magictouchcorp.com> wrote in message
> news:41ee6e0d$1_2@news.vic.com...
> > My point to David, however, was that the units for each expression on
> > either
> > side of the "=" are the same. Also, somehow, the resulting energy value
> > has
> > been experimentally proven (nuclear weapons and reactors) to be equal to
> > the
> > value returned by the expression mc^2. For those reasons, the seemingly
> > model-less statement E=mc^2 is indeed an equation.
>
> Nonsense, Ranando. Nuclear weapons do nothing to prove E=mc^2. If they
> did, we could have blown up Hiroshima with 30kgs of rice. You are
confusing
> mass with matter.

Funny, Last time I checked, all matter had a feature we call mass. And yes,
if you could somehow cause the atoms in 30kg of rice to fuse, then we most
certainly could've.

> E=mc^2 says absolutely nothing about matter, especially
> since matter is not quantified in the Standard Model or in SRT. Further,
if
> E=mc^2 were a true equality, then after running nuclear power plants for
> over 60 years at least one national lab would have been able to present us
> with clear data that shows exactly a quantity of matter would yield a
> precise amount of energy. The fact is, my friend, that nuclear power
plants
> output lots more energy than the E=mc^2 expression will allow. That's why
> they designed and built Liquid Metal Fast Breeder Reactors (LMFBR) that
> produced more fuel than they consumed.

Cheap trick. You have to count the U238 rods as fuel in those reactors since
by absorbing neutron radiation from the core, they become Pu239. Also, you
have to double-count the UO2 in the core since some of that converts to Pu
as well from the same radiation. There's no magic here. It's all strictly
accountable.

R.

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