Re: 4 prohumanist continued

From: Daniel T. (postmaster_at_earthlink.net)
Date: 01/21/05 

Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 21:04:49 GMT

In article <41F16793.3020406@ak.net>, david <dgordon@ak.net> wrote:

> Daniel T. wrote:
> > In article <41F09942.8080501@ak.net>, david <dgordon@ak.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Pro-Humanist FREELOVER wrote:
> >> > "david" <dgordon@ak.net> wrote ...
> >> >
> >> >>"Pro-Humanist FREELOVER" wrote ...
> >> >>
> >> >>>"david" wrote, among other things ...
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>Can science create an oxygen molecule out of nothing?
> >> >>>>God can.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>A myth can't create anything. All you have
> >> >>>are claims. Claims-claims-claims, and
> >> >>>nothing to show for it -but- claims.
> >>
> >>Then present a valid counter argument that disempowers my claims. You
> >>claim to want open discussion but you don't answer questions posed.
> >
> > First present a claim that has power.
>
> I claim that God created the universe and all life within it. God has
> the power that science lacks.

Yes, you claim that, but it has no power. You claim that God has power,
but your actual claim does not. Make a claim that has power, and then
maybe someone will present a valid counter argument that dis-empowers
your claim. Until, then you have nothing but empty words.

> A question then. How did the universe create itself?
>
> And a related question: who/what created the universe and all within it?

What do you mean by universe? The definition I use is "all that exists
or is postulated to exist."

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