Re: Magnetic Monopoles Found? Dual-Slit Expe Explained?
From: Qion (physicsofchi_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 02/02/05
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Date: 1 Feb 2005 17:32:28 -0800
AaronB wrote:
> It would probably be easier to judge these things if you have some
> quantative (ie numerical) evidence to test. For instance, you said
> earlier that 60 Hz power lines affect this bioetheric field. Well,
now
> you have something easy to test. Head to an electronics and plug in a
> function generator. Try making a 30, 40, 50, 80, 100, 500, and 1000
Hz
> signal, and see if the field distorts in some mathematically
> quantifiable way. Now keep the frequency constant, and change the
> voltage. Now keep both constant, and change the distance between the
> subject and the field. Try changing the waveform from sinusoidal to
> square, triangular, etc. This is all relatively easy to do: if I had
a
> Qi healer, I could test it myself. Hopefully, you will get some
> relationship from this. Now you can develop a model that predicts
that
> relationship, and see if it is a subset of standard theory or
something
> completely new. The way you're trying to do things, you will spent a
> lot of time researching theories that will go nowhere.
A great thing to do. I hope electromagnetic experts can do it
too. Complex waveform may be involved. Actually. I'm
interested in qi physics is because I look forward to the
day when machines can emit qi instead of humans. Qi dynamics
is not simple but quite complicated. For example. For someone
who has very gross qi or dirty bioetheric energy in the head
area. You can't just sweep them off to basin of salt water.
You have to emit special qi vibration corresponding to green
to dissolve the gross qi energy. Without the green vibration.
There is no way you can simply remove the gross qi energy
by sweeping it off. Now here's the problem. How accurate
can you consistently emit green qi vibration. If you made
a mistake a emit orange energy to the brain, you can destroy
some brain cells thru its corresponding etheric connection.
Now here's another problem. It's difficult to heal your own
gross energy in the head. You know why. Because remember
that the body upper area uses finer qi than the bottom. So
your hands etheric matter is grosser than that of brain.
Therefore when you put when hands over the head area. You
can sometimes make worse your conditions by making the gross
energy in the brain grosser due to the hands energy being
more gross than that in the brain. This is why you need
a qi healer with more refined etheric body who can emit
finer green qi vibration to dissolve that gross thing in
the brain causing decade long migrane for example. Therefore
a machine that can emit green qi vibration to dissolve the
gross qi would be immensely useful and the implication is
equal if not more than the relief brought by the development
of pain killers medicine. The following book details the uses
of different qi vibrations. Only Electromagnetic experts can
create a machine to produce the same thing. Don't expect me
to do that as I'm no master of electromagnetics.
> > Einstein theory of special relativity says that nothing can
> > travel faster than light. Isn't it his main thesis.
>
> That may be a consequence of special relativity, but, no, it is
> certainly not his thesis. When Einstein proposed special relativity,
he
> said that 1) the laws of physics in all inertial frames are
equivalent
> and 2) the speed of light is constant in all reference frames. 2)
does
> not necessarily imply, however, that nothing can travel faster than
> light.
Really? I thought Einstein is against superluminal velocity
as it can break his SR. But indirectly it is because since
light only travels at light speed and matter can't be brought
to light speed because the mass would become infinite. There
is nothing therefore that can theoretically reach superluminal
velocity... unless.. that's right.. unless there is a special
substance in the universe that functions as superluminal
speed as its intrinsic properties, and qi is one of it.
> >
> > That's for normal matter. But for negative mass as Tiller put it.
> > It may occur. One simply create special equations.
>
> Negative mass doesn't help you, actually. The mass would just get
> infinitely negative instead of infinitely positive, and complex for v
>
> c. Only complex mass can be faster than light, and no massive object
> can reach the speed of light.
It's not exactly negative mass as in negative of positive mass.
I mean. The negative mass functions in frequency domain...
meaning it's not a negative baryonic mass and has quality of
mass but not exactly mass. It's like a hologram that can solidify.
Don't know how to describe it yet. Even if Tiller is wrong,
there must be something close to it. I feel that Tiller is
not exactly right but so far his hypotheses is the best out
therefore without breaking down Standard Model. I await the
future time when an Einstein like personality can nail it.
Sometimes I feel like a 16th century dude trying to figure
out about Maxwell equation and wasting time moving thru
life figuring out the physics of em when the foundation and
even mathematics are not even there yet. It's possible the
full physics of qi can only come after M-Theory (Mother
of Superstring theories) are perfected and the incredibly
complex equations solved.. this may occur at some point in
the future maybe 2200 A.D. after we are all dead. So I guess
I have to make a tactical retreat to understand the full
physics of qi because I may be wasting time. Sometimes I feel
like a nerd spending late at night trying to study QED and
worse... without good understanding of mathematics. I could
have spent my time read psychology or medicine. Therefore I
may just leave the full derivation of the physics of qi to
full fledged scientists like Tiller, Bearden and better yet,
Ph.D scientists like many of you who are full experts in all
the basics and the only people who can nail the physics of qi.
> > Oh. It was Thomson who said that qi may be dark matter as in
> > his hypothesis. Dark matter is composed of neutrinos which
> > can't enter the Aether units hence are trapped in between
> > Aether units or in between matter.
>
> We're reasonably certain that dark matter is not composed of
neutrinos.
> There just aren't enough neutrinos for that to work.
Yes, I know about the nutralinos,axions.. It's just that
Thomson make physics upside down by attacking every side
of it. I don't want to persue this path further. Let me just
say that I think qi is more likely subtle energy from the
Vacuum with magnetic properties rather than aether units.
But Thomson can still prove it is aether units if he corrects
the mistakes and rewrite this model such as accomodating the
existences of pions which he never believe exist at all but
just debris. Who knows there may be Aether but my mind aches
just thinking about it all.
> It is a common misconception that the neutron is just a proton and an
> electron stuck together. There are various other quantum mechanical
> properties aside from charge and decay that make this impossible, but
> that is beyond the scope of this discussion.
In Thomson book. He has a mechanism where the neutron being made
of proton and electron came out naturally without spin, etc.
incompatibility.
> > Yes, but not the superluminal and non-local properties which
> > may be mediated by superluminal etheric wave.
>
> Care to give a few specific examples?
I don't even know if qi is really superluminal. All I can say is
it is possible for me right now to manipulate your etheric body
for positive or negative wherever you are in the planet. How
else can you explain this unless there is etheric superluminal
realm as Tiller who also studied it hypothesized. The reason I'm
not so keen in doing like giving Bjorn diseased qi is because
I'm not expert in emitting different vibrations of qi. The only
way to heal a person who gross qi in the etheric body is emitting
the right green qi vibration to dissolve it. I haven't practiced
doing this for years so if I didn't emit green but instead orange
or red qi vibration. Bjoern brain may be fried (The reason
I can't emit it to his rib is because the brain is the most
sensitive part being made of super fine qi that is why obvious
proof can also occur by producing extreme throbbing headace
(get this Bjoern that is why rib test is not ok unless you are
sensitive. If you are not and your rib is full of negative
qi and you don't feel a thing, it can later affect your heart
and cause you heart attack). Also I already give out the
addresses of all qi healing centers in the planet
so those interested can just test them out. There are many
scientist working on qi now like Tiller, etc. so even if
mainstream scientists won't do it. Others are and should qi
physics be related to M-theory. It may not be the right time
now to understand the physics of qi. Although electromagnetic
wizards may nail it if M-theory is just an illusion and it
is just a hidden side of magnetism not well understood yet
(such as Tiller magnetic monopoles existing in negative
space with negative exotic mass like thing, with negative
entropy etc.). I got bored when I open up EM books and seeing
all the equations so I decided not to pursue anymore.
> > Gee. We qi healers can detect etheric counterpart in every
> > physical matter even a wood.
>
> Great. How much etheric matter can you detect in 1 kg of lead? 10 kg?
> How about iron? Does the shape matter? Temperature? Velocity?
Density?
It interpenetrates the 1 kg of lead although etheric matter can
of course exist independently like ghosts. Some said UFOs are
etheric creatures. Don't know. When a psychometrist touch any
object and instantly read the memory of the pass. It is the
etheric matter in the physical object he is getting in touch.
Since I don't understand the physics of qi. I don't know how
physical and etheric matter couple. Tiller has a theory on it
though as shown in his book. I think he is half wrong and
deriving the right one may take decades or centuries by full
fledge Ph.D. scientists.
>
> > Oh Tiller stuff can explain how Acupuncture points have
> > special electrical properties different from other skin.
>
> What specific electrical properties do you refer to?
Go to www.go.com, search for "acupuncture electrical properties".
Many links will come up. I'm not really familiar with acupuncture
so can't comment further. Tiller mentions a lot about it and
details how magnetoelectric energy (qi) can cause it as it
moves in the body meridians much like blood coursing thru
veins. But I'm not interested to know further because
without know the physics of qi. It's nuts to apply it to
biology and understanding it fully.
> >
> > "Examining the ion pumping potential of an acupuncture meridian
> > point reveals a cross-section that looks like an umbrella.
> > Looking down on the skin, this umbrella appears to be a circle,
> > an acupuncture point.
>
> I don't suppose you have a link to a diagram?
You can find some in go.com after searching for "acupuncture
electrical properties" or borrow Tiller book for the digram.
> > More importantly, from an electrical
> > conductivity point of view, that means that an acupuncture
> > meridian point meets the conditions necessary for antenna
> > transmission and reception.
>
> Why is that?
Would you believe, tiller book "Science and Human Transformation"
is more like a physics technical textbook because of many
equations and digrams and antenna arrays, etc. and biophysics.
Too bad it doesn't fall in the hands of real scientist but
medical folks who want to understand qi like the doctor who
wrote the book "Vibrational Medicine" Grener something who
uses Tiller hypotheses.
>
> > Each Acupuncture Point (A.P.)
> > is a biologic monopolar antenna with overtones of helical
> > shape!
>
> How does he get this from the above?
I don't know. If I got back to Tiller later on about
acupuncture. I'll let you know.
>
> > Subtle energy wave flow along the etheric meridians
> > causes transduced magnetic waves along the physical meridians
> > generating the observed electrical field and conductivity of
> > the A.P.
>
> What does subtle energy wave mean? Is he referring to energy in a
> physics sense, or something else? What about etheric/physical
> meridians? How strong is this electric field?
Subtle energy is energy that is subtle that may come from
the vacuum. BTW.. the secret why we sleep may be because
the nodal networks of the body etheric and biochemical
need subtle energy (qi) for maximum performance. It's not
because of ATP process or memory housekeeping although
it is part of it. This is why all serious scientists who
study sleep say the real purpose of sleep remain a mystery.
Gee. We spend one third of our life sleeping so qi physics
need the attention of all people.
> What is etheric energy? Is this referring to energy in a physics
sense?
Read Tiller site for the details of his version of what it is.
In my own. Etheric energy is qi which is subtle energy which
may come from the vacuum or aether and right now. I'm tired
looking for the answers because I have to admit I have poor
mathematics so I won't waste time further on understanding
the physics of qi.
> > Thus, if for some reason the flow of subtle energy,
> > Chi, becomes restricted or blocked in the etheric meridians,
> > then at the physical level the transduced magnetic flow and
> > associated electrical conductivity of the A.P. decreases.
>
> Why does that follow from the above? What is the relationship between
> this blockage and the strength of the electric field?
It's detailed in his book. I'll let you know after I understood
it well or search in the web sites for similar descriptions by
others.
>
> > However, when one activates the A.P. by some means so that
> > ion flow is restored at the physical level, this generates an
> > increased magnetic flow that serves to unclog the etheric
>
> What does he mean by magnetic flow?
Check out this site (but like I said I don't know a lot about
it so can't comment further).
http://www.acupuncturetoday.com/archives2004/mar/03lo.html
>
> > meridian flow channel and reduce the perturbations at even
> > more subtle levels of energy, namely thought and emotion."
> Thought and emotion are not forms of energy in a physics sense.
>
> A.
It is subtle energy and since our body biochemical networks
are related to our thought and emotion thru the endocrine
system, etc. You can understand now how suble energy can
directly affect the thought and emotions of a person by
indirectly affecting the biochemical pathway either distorting
it. This is the problem in the new age arena when improper
handling of subtle energy affect their biochemical balance
in the body so much that their psychological health is
affected. Speaking of psychology. I'm now going to read
up books on psychology and sociology and avoid physics for a
while so this may be the last you would hear from me. If
anyone peeking this message in the future would like to
know more about qi. Just visit any of the 400 qi healing
branches worldwide and look at Tiller site
http://www.pranichealing.org/directory/usa.htm
http://www.tillerfoundation.com/science.html
where Tiller is able to explain how mind can affect matter
because consciousness uses etheric mechanism and not just
neurons. This is why mainstream consciousness researchers won't
nail it until after the derivation of the physics of qi by future
Einsteinians. Our brain may create the function of thought
but qualia or the feeling of awareness of being aware is
related to etheric mechanism and beyond. Try to read up
the best books on consciousness such as Koch "Quest for
Consciousness: A neurobiological approach" and you will
know what I mean. So Qi physics is related to almost every
field of science. I hope some of us are still alive when
the day comes when qi etheric physics became mainstream
science.
Qion
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