Re: Is electromagnetic field theory unified?

From: Bjoern Feuerbacher (feuerbac_at_thphys.uni-heidelberg.de)
Date: 02/22/05


Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 18:07:18 +0100

JM Albuquerque wrote:
> "Androcles" <Androcles@ MyPlace.org> escreveu na mensagem
> news:C7lSd.177193$K7.35869@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>
> (snip)
>
>
>>I didn't know the modern ones disobeyed Gauss and Faraday's
>>laws, though.
>
>
> I meant that they only obey those Laws by a short period of time.

Horsedung.

> I meant they are not continuous.

Horsedung.

> They don't produce sine waves.

Horsedung.

>>The electic motor guild paid a lot of money to Maxwell to add aether
>>into his equations and publish them, secrets are best kept if you tell a
>>half-truth and lie about the rest. :-)
>
>
> The subject is so complex that nobody really knows everything.

Horsedung.

> There is no good picture of the electromagnetic mechanism.

Horsedung.

> All the pictures have strong arguments against them and that's
> what keeps us here trying to figure out the best picture.

What pictures? Electromagnetism is described by equations, not
by pictures.

> Most of the people gets satisfied with equations

Indeed, since that's all that's important in physics: having equations
which describe observed phenomena correctly.

> and give up to figure a picture.

Good. Essentially verytime someone tries to come up with nice fancy
pictures in order to "explain" an aspect of physics, the outcome
is invariably horsedung, not physics.

> They are not engineers

Indeed. Hint: that's an advantage.

> and they never
> disassemble machines just for the fun and try to understand them.

Wrong. I did that several times in my life already. In fact, the
desire to know how all of that arounds me works was a large reason
for me studying physics.

In contrast to you, I merely realized that describing the world
with nice fancy pictures won't work, that you need equations if you
want to achieve a correct description.

> They claim there is no forces

Wrong. Where on earth did you get that nonsense from?

> but they always use the safety belt when they drive a car.

Indeed.

> Magnetism is a force that acts at distance.

Indeed. Try reading up on virtual photons. As a first step, you
could try to find out what physicists mean when they talk about
virtual photons, instead of merely making up your own definition
for that term.

> In the case of sinusoidal AC machines (synchronous or induction)
> it is a matter of poles repelling similar poles (N-N or S-S), not
> poles attracting poles (N-S or S-N). Energy is stored during
> half cycle time and given the other half. There is a delay on the
> process. There is real power (equal to mechanical energy)

Power is not equal to energy.

You *really* have no clue of even the most basic physics!

> plus apparent power that is current flowing out of phase with no work
> done, etc., etc.

Hey, you got that approximately right, congratulations.

> What magnetism is a puzzle.

Horsedung.

> Lines of force?

A certain type of virtual photons. Open a book on electrodynamics,
and after you have understood it, Mr. "there is no current density",
go on with QED.

> For sure it is a force even without knowing how a force can be
> transmitted at distance.

Virtual photons.

> For sure is not radiation

No one claimed it is. When will you finally stop attacking straw men
and try to understand what we actually say?

> because a 300
> MW (megawatt) generator translated into radiation will be a power station
> that will emanate so much radiation that it will be seen light-years away.

Non sequitur. Why on earth should *all* of the power which is generated
be radiated off?

Bye,
Bjoern



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