Re: GOD exists !
From: George Hammond (nowhere1_at_nospam.net)
Date: 02/24/05
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Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 21:31:17 GMT
"Don H" <donlhumphries@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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> "George Hammond" <nowhere1@nospam.net> wrote in message
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> >
> > "Gary Eickmeier" <geickmei@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:Rg1Td.109564$JF2.94184@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
> > >
> > >
> > > George Hammond wrote:
> > >
> > > > [Hammond]
> > > > You wouldn't know what God is if the 3 Stooges slapped you silly.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Having proved God exists (verification or falsification?), he
should
> > now
> > > >>go on to prove the existence of Satan, Heaven, Hell, angels, demons,
> > > >>Redemption for our Sins by Son of God, etc. But that is getting
back
> to
> > > >>that 'ol time religion.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Hammond]
> > > >
> > > > 1. Satan is a 2nd order Psychometric Factor (eigenvector),
> > > > the persona of whom is well recognized in the population.
> > > >
> > > > 2. Angels and Demons, also Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny
> > > > are also 2nd order personality Factors. Bear in mind there
> > > > are 13 2nd order Factors in Psychology and they form a
> > > > CUBE (correlationally) in Psychometry (eigenvector) space.
> > > >
> > > > 3. Heaven is simply the "unseen world" which exists because
> > > > some 15-25% of your brain is not "fully grown" according
> > > > to the extablished data of the "Secular Trend in human
> > > > growth" which has been recorded for the past 100 years,
> > > > and confirmed for the past 40,000 years.
> > > >
> > > > 4. Hell likewise, is a manifestion of the "subconscious/ungrown
> > > > brain" whereby "repression" (a mental block) causes normal
> > > > brain growth to become "repressed" causing immense,
> > > > psychopathic, pent up rage and hate (psychosis so called)..
> > > > quite common actually.. since there are millions of men in
> > > > federal prisions in the US suffering from this condition.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Proving some geometric entity using theoretical physics won't mean
> > much
> > > >
> > > > to
> > > >
> > > >>the average mug like me, I'm afraid. Good luck, George.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Hammond]
> > > > Not to worry... what you don't know won't hurt you... just be
> > > > glad you didn't wind up in a federal prison.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Nature isn't rectilinear or anything so perfect - Nature is
chaotic,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Hammond]
> > > > F=ma doesn't look chaotic to me... it only looks "chaotic"
> > > > to dumbells like you who are tryaing to "disprove the laws"
> > > > so that you can get on with breaking them.
>
> # Don H. (1) Most of the "laws" discovered by us humans only operate under
> ideal conditions; they have exceptions, and even the terminology is of
human
> invention - "force", "mass", and "acceleration". To what extent is this:
> operating in a tautology? (2) Humans cannot "break" a law of Nature, as
> we're part of Nature. We can make stupid environmental decisions which may
> hasten our extinction or make life unpleasant, but Nature will merely go
> along with all that - and wipe us out without any remorse or compunction.
[Hammond]
By your own admission, words like " "force", "mass", and "acceleration" "
are of human "invention". Fact is... they are more than mere "invention"..
they are in fact "sensations defined by the human sensory system".
without a human sensory system, such entities do not exist! the mere
word "exist" is DEFINED by the human sensory system. And from
that one can conclude that the entire universe does not "exist" except
as a function of the human sensory system. HENCE... the world did
not "exist" before the advent of the humans... and this is PRECISELY
what the Genesis Creation says... and means... and is the only
RATIONAL interpretation of the Genesis Creation.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Meantime, please define your God in about 100 words..... (It helps
> > pass
> > > >>the time between now and extinction.)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Hammond]
> > > > Been ther done that a THOUSAND times. Try this one:
> > > >
> > > > SCIENTIFIC
> > > > DEFINITION OF GOD
> > > >
> > > > The existence of "God" is caused by the
> > > > "Secular Trend in Human Growth" which
> > > > was discovered about 100 years ago.
> > > > According to this discovery, modern Man
> > > > is about 20% short of "full growth" (theoretical
> > > > genotypic size)... including of course notably
> > > > the human BRAIN. The "standard of living"
> > > > is what causes this... not enough to go around.
> > > > This 20% shortfall in brain growth does not
> > > > mean anything is missing.. it simply means the
> > > > overall brain is 20% short of full growth, and
> > > > therefore full function. The EFFECT of this
> > > > is to make 20% of the world actually INVISIBLE
> > > > to the average person. This causes a myriad
> > > > of apparently "supernatural" phenomena to
> > > > APPEAR to the individual (you and me)...
> > > > not the least of which is the uncanny feeling
> > > > that people are "watching" us.
>
> # Don H. Nice theory, for which there is absolutely no evidence.
[Hammond]
Quit spouting your unsupported assertions.
Hammond has published the proof in the
peer reviewed literature in 2003... and it is
also well known that you are academically
unqualified to even read it. Jealous twit.
> "Feeling
> people are watching" you is called paranoia.
[Hammond]
Wrong... it's called being "self conscious"... and the
only way you can be "self conscious" is to have
"2 minds".. which is EXACTLY what we have...
one "grown and conscious" and the other
"ungrown and subconscious"... and since the
ungrown/subconscious mind is "God"... it
is "God watching you" that makes you
"self conscious".
Go dig up some more cliche's... you haven't
said an original thing in your entire life.
>
> > > > Meanwhile, the (legendary and mythical)
> > > > 100% FULLY GROWN MAN has been
> > > > named "GOD".
>
> # Don H. This is an arbitrary definition; "God" as defined by George H.
It
> is nowhere to be found in any dictionary.
[Hammond]
WRONG... it isn't a "definition" it is a "discovered
and proven fact"... I only use the word "definition"
to annoint the pedants who don't know the difference
between a "physical description" and a "definition".
>
> Since this man is actually
> > > > within us but is "ungrown" it appears that
> > > > he is "external" to us (in fact it is debatable
> > > > as to whether he is).. and it is said that he
> > > > "lives in the invisible world"... which is quite
> > > > accurate, not only perceptually, but
> > > > scientifically also... now that a proof of
> > > > all this has been discovered. Bear in mind
> > > > the "proof" demonstrates that the difference
> > > > between "subjectively" and "objectively"
> > > > seen reality is, stunningly, discovered to be
> > > > dewscribed mathematically by Einstein's
> > > > curvature tensor (in perceptual space)
> > > > so that: GOD=G_uv.
>
> # Don H. "Proof" in modern science requires some kind of empirical test,
> ie. verification or falsification by experiment. Hence, George's theory
> itself must be testable.
[Hammond]
Hammond's theory IS TESTABLE. In fact, IT HAS ALREADY
BEEN TESTED by 150 years of published EXPERIMENTAL
results in Psychometry, Biology, Anatomy, Neuroscience and
Relativity. If you want to do the experiments all over again..
be my guest... they are all cited in the bibliographies of my
published papers.
It's sort of like the discovery of DALTON'S LAW... it was
proven the day it was published by 500 years of existing
chemical data... if you want to "test it" all you have to do
is REPEAT any one of the known experiments that proved it.
Yawn...
>
> > > >
> > > > I APPRECIATE YOU ASKING A RATIONAL QUESTION...
> > > > when you do you will get a rational answer... meanwhile I wish
> > > > all these kooks would clear out of here and quit posting
> > > > their high school cafeteria food fight style one liners.
> > > > ====================================
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> > > >
> > > > http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
> > > > mirror site:
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> > >
> > > OK, now I get it. This is the greatest put-on since Phil Hendrie. You
> > > had me all the way, George! Great work!
> > >
> > > Gary Eickmeier
> >
> > [Hammond]
> > Quit posting your academy cliches to this thread Eickmeier... it
simply
> > makes you look stupid.
> > Man has known for thousands of years that "God is psychological", and
> > known further that the world "psychological" is inadequate to describe
> > it and therefore the world "Theological" was invented.
>
> # Don H. Aah, so it's psychological. Asylums are full of people who
appear
> normal, but their minds have their own "reality" - as you discover once
you
> start talking to them. I know, having visited such places. Does George
> belong there?
[Hammond]
Cut the ad hominem baloney... you're not bright enough
or vicious enough to insult me.
As for God being "psychological".... Christ himself
said it 2,000 years ago when he said:
"God is a spirit" (Jesus, Jn 4:24)
Everyone knows that a "spirit" is a "psychological phenomena",
if you don't think so.... look it up in a dictionary.
All I've done is identify the CAUSE AND ORIGIN of said
"spirit" as being caused by the Secular Trend in braingrowth,
and proven that this "spirit" obeys EINSTEIN'S FIELD
EQUATION in subjectively seen space... hence GOD=G_uv.
You better start playing catchup ball dude... you're beginning
to sound a little hokey.
>
>
> > Today, millions of people know explicitly what God is, how powerful
> > God is, how it works and what it means to the world and human destiny.
>
> # Don H. Yes, sheep go in flocks - there is no limit on the size of a
> flock. The Good Shepherd will take care of you.
[Hammond]
Cut the Sunday school B.S.... this isn't a kindergarden
discussion... you're supposed to have some scientific
expertise.
>
> > And all this occurred BEFORE a U.S. physicist finally discovered
> > an experimentally confirmed, axiomatic physics SCIENTIFIC PROOF of it.
> > What all this adds up to is that you are now officially to be
considered
> > an IGNORAMUS... a virtual ILLITERATE and a pathetic amateur
> > and second rate human being BECAUSE you are aware of none of
> > this. Most of all because you are a member of the elite Western
> > educated class, and are too lazy and stupid to recognized the
> > SCIENTIFIC PROOF of God... you will eventually be highly
> > impuned, if not OSTRACIZED for such a derelicion of duty. By
> > who, you ask? Well, with complete confidence we may turn to
> > TMG's report of the "LARGEST GATHERING ON EARTH"
> > which in fact, was a RELIGIOUS GATHERING in Allahabad
> > India.... 40 MILLION PEOPLE assembled to worship GOD
> > and they do so there every 12 years. Don't you think it is
> > significant that the LARGEST CROWD ever assembled on
> > Earth was assembled for the purpose of worshipping GOD!
> > And more recently, we see Benny Hinn assembling Christian
> > crowds numbering in the 2, 3 and 4 millions at a time in a
> > dozen foreign coutries... India, Japan, Singapore, Nigeria...
> > ... YES... eventually it is these millions and BILLIONS who
> > are going to BLAME YOU a clean smelling western elite
> > educated individual for heckling and ignoring the discovery
> > of a scientific proof of God which these BILLIONS of
> > people are desperately awaiting. Believe me, if you heckle
> > and ridicule it long enough, they are going to sieze upon
> > it as a unifying weapon to mobilize the entire 3rd World,
> > and 3/4's of the rest of the world AGAINST PEOPLE
> > LIKE YOU! ... and against the privileged elite classes
> > of the West who have ignored and ridiculed and attempted
> > to SUPPRESS a scientific discovery which represents
> > a MIRACLE of salvation to the poor of the world.
> > You're worse than stupid.... you're corrupt!
>
> # Don H. Gee, George, you really rave when you hit your stride!
[Hammond]
You wish.
> >
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> >
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