Re: New Cubic Atomic Model explains electron energy levels and bonding

franklinhu_at_yahoo.com
Date: 02/27/05 

Date: 26 Feb 2005 22:43:46 -0800

Bjoern Feuerbacher wrote:
> franklinhu@yahoo.com wrote:
> > Bjoern Feuerbacher wrote:
> >

[snip]

>
> >>>A hydrogen H2 molecule would also be
> >>>similar.
> >>
> >>I.e. a hydrogen molecule should have a proton at one end
> >>and an electron at the other. I.e. it should not be
> >>symmetric.
> >>
> >>Why has this never been observed somehow? For example,
> >>why don't we see a dipole moment for the H2 molecule?
> >>
> >
> >
> > I would predict that an H2 molecule lines up as an alternating
array
> > and everything cancels each other out.
>
> Huh? Sorry, but if a H2 molecule looks like that:
> e-p-e-p
> or
> p-e-p-e,
> i.e. an alternating array, lined up, it should have an electric
dipole
> moment. Nothing can cancel out there-
>

I didn't mean a linear array, I mean the most compact 3-d form which
would be:
e-p
p-e

>
> > I haven't been able to find any data for the dipole moment for a
> > solitary H atom, but you can see that the magnetic moment is
> > quite large, indicating that this may not be a symettric
> > arrangment.
>
> Where did you get the magnetic moment of the H2 molecule from, and
> why does this indicate that this is not a "symmetric arrangement"?
>

See http://www.webelements.com/webelements/elements/text/H/isot.html

Something must be causing the magnetic moment - something that is
perfectly
symettric couldn't possibly exhibit a particular orientation in a
magnetic
field. On the other hand, Helium, is perfectly symetrically in the
cubic
model and shows zero magnetic moment.

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>
>
> >>What does "spherical harmonics" mean, in your opinion?
> >
> >
> > Sperical harmonics describes the motion of a particle around an
> > attractive point source.
>
> Wrong.
>
> Thanks for confirming my suspicion.
>

OK, then what does describe the motion of a particle around an
attractive
point source - if spherical harmonics doesn't do this? Suppose I am in
space
outside the effects of gravity and a spray negatively charged pellets
at a positvely
charged shere. Is there some branch of physics which describes the
motion
of the pellets around the shere?

I am confused beause the diagrams assocated with sherical harmonics
such as:

http://www.uniovi.es/qcg/harmonics/harmonics.html

These are identical to those plots showing electron orbitals like at:

http://www.shef.ac.uk/chemistry/orbitron/index.html

So is it the same or different?

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