Re: IRT: A New Theory of Relativity

From: kenseto (kenseto_at_erinet.com)
Date: 02/05/05 

Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 14:23:15 GMT

"Jesse Mazer" <vze2ztqw@mail.verizon.net> wrote in message
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> kenseto wrote:
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> >"Jesse Mazer" <vze2ztqw@mail.verizon.net> wrote in message
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> >>kenseto wrote:
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> >>>"Jesse Mazer" <vze2ztqw@mail.verizon.net> wrote in message
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> >>But that's not the situation in the example--the light pulses and the
> >>train were both moving horizontally.
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> >This is a bogus assumption and it is rejected by the null result of the
MMX.
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> I have no idea why you think the MMX is relevant to this question.

The MMX null result was interpreted wrongly. If the direction of absolute
motion of the apparatus is in the vertical direction wrt the horizontal
light rays then we will get the null result for all the orientations of the
horizontal arms. This interpretation suggests that the direction of absolute
motion for an object on earth is in the vertical direction. Therefore when
you claimed that the ends of the train are moving horizontally wrt the
horizontal light pulses is wrong.

>If I
> aim a flashlight horizontally, doesn't that automatically guarantee the
> light beam is moving horizontally in my frame, regardless of whether you
> believe I am moving relative to the ether?

No....the MMX null result says that your direction of absolute motion is
vertical wrt the horizontal light ray.

>That would certainly be true
> according to Maxwell's equations, for example, and it would also be true
> in SR. Perhaps your point is just that this horizontal beam will not be
> moving at the velocity c in my reference frame, because the earth is not
> at rest in the ether frame.

c is a constant math ratio in all frames as follows:
Light path length of rod (299,792,458m)/the universal time content for a
clock second co-moving with the rod.

>OK, but since this is a
> *thought-experiment*, we are free to imagine that this experiment takes
> place on an alien planet which is at rest relative to the ether frame, no?

But we formulate our physics based on what we observed on earth.

Ken Seto

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