Re: Beethoven's 5th Symphony
From: Androcles (Androcles_at_)
Date: 02/05/05
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Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 23:58:39 GMT
"Michael" <mschaffer@gmx.net> wrote in message
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> Actually I think "understanding" and appreciating the 6th is crucial
> to
> "understanding" the 5th. I find it very telling that LvB wrote both of
> them at the same time, and originally, the numbering was reversed, if
> I
> remember correctly, still at the time of the first performances and
> only put in the order known today later.
> Why did he change the numbering?
> Maybe it was simply for practical considerations, maybe for no reason
> at all.
> Maybe LvB saw the 2 symphonies as one larger structure and wanted the
> 6th to be played after the 5th. There is some justification in doing
> so, even though it is very rarely done when the 2 symphonies are
> played
> next to each other. The 5th is so much more applause-driving, it
> always
> gets placed last.
> Without wanting to read too much into the music, it is clear that the
> 5th is a "story" of great conflict and final resolution and triumph
> after a long and intensive struggle. The 6th is a vision of harmony,
> only briefly interrupted, and if you follow the music attentively and
> openly, you will find that the finale of the 6th is maybe even more
> exciting than that of the 5th, because it carries you away on wave
> after wave of exhilaration.
> When you get scores of both pieces, you will easily be able to see
> that
> in the first movement of the 5th, the classical principle of building
> up phrases across even numbers of bars (e.g. 4,8) is almost constantly
> interrupted. In the development section (after the repeat), the music
> is pulled apart by conflicting motifs and interjections. Even the very
> lyrical 2nd theme (after the horn call) which goes in phrases of 4
> bars, is constantly "bothered" by the hammering main motif.
> It might be interesting for you to know that the 2nd movement's long
> main theme is actually based on a popular Viennese street song, the
> kind that was sung by travelling singers with hand-cranked organs (I
> don't know the correct English term). The text roughly ran something
> like "I have no money and nothing in the world, I am eternally
> floating
> around looking for a little piece of luck and happiness".
LOL... what makes you think I don't have the score to all nine?
Androcles.
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