Re: Isotope decay chains

From: Y.Porat (maporat_at_012.net.il)
Date: 02/15/05 

Date: 15 Feb 2005 04:56:56 -0800

Angelo wrote:
> > > -------------
> > lets make it clear
> > th e single private enemy is ...... not you!
>
> I was pretty sure about this, and can reassure
> you, on my side, that I am not.

i waas writing an answer of about 20 minutes
and it got lost by an server error'
tough life.
so may be this time shorter
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>
> > ----------
> >
> Again? I said: '' well known 'problem' '' :
> do you see the difference?
>
> > may be the question but surely not the amswer!!
>
> And I said ''question'', not ''answer'': why don't you
> read me?
>
> > because the existing real detaled knowledge of the inner Nuc.
> > is cose to zero (if not completely wrong and ... flat zero!!
>
> If you say so ... that's your responsibility.
>
> > and as i sayed :
> > if you dont know the inner momentum of a single nucleid
> > *as a member of the conglomearation* and the value of 'X'
> > it is stupidity (may be stuipid arrorance)to use the HUP in that
> > situation !!
> > hope you got it .
>
> So apparently, you didn't get the faintest clue
> about the HUP.

easy easy with sweeping declarations
btw
ar eyou sure that no one else is blowing behind your back???!!

> For if we knew the exact position, at the same time
> we couldn't know nothing about momentum,
who sayed the exact location???
i sayed th emutual location
ie a is next to b and b is next to c etc
that was what i meant by location.
and that is much more than ever known before
so please just have a look at the cite:

http://www.geocities.com/porat_y/mypage.html
then click the link there .
it is jus the abatract of my model far form all of it.
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and only then start evaluating my model
actually it should tak eyou months to start undrestanding
and appreciating it !!!
months in the good case
if you of the Feurbacher stuff you will never get it
because of- among the others -'emotional
and psychological problems'
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> and ''vice versa''.
> And the HUP has not yet been falsified.
> I asked you about your idea of the HUP, and you
> didn't bother to answer: now I understand why.
i never sayed it was falsified
it depends to what hands it falls!!!
now please note
the fact that you cant know it from the hup
(and there i sa whole world that you cant know from that principle- so
that is the unpractical handicap
of that principle:
and abstarct formula cannot repalce all physics
and even not be the supreem judge of all issues

b
the fact that you cannot know the inner structure of
the nuc (and may be even molecules?? am i righ tabout the
molecules as well ??)
so the above fact that you cant know it from HUP
*does not mean tha tyou cant know it ** from other sources**
got it ??
if not just see my model
it is from pure experimantal data based!!
so ???
shell i tell you again the ;
'there is no such animal' joke ???
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>
> > I don't know what 'parrots' you are referring to.
fo rinstanc those who hold the shell model
fo rhavy elements
if you are one of them pleasebring experimantal data
for 32 electrons in the shell No 4 !!
 so sorry to tell you :
if you cant do it and you suport it
you are a parrot as the others.
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>
> > diring about 10 years on the net i have more than an idea
> > about people know and about what they do not oknow
> > (an i didnt forgot about *waht i dont know and otheers
> > know better than me
>
> I acknowledge and respect your work,
> even though can't share your conclusions.
it will take you some time !1 

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>
> > but that better than me is not in the nuc realm!!
> > at least not about its geometric structure
> > in whicch it seems with all the modesty i am expert No 1)
>
> No need for you to bother asking me
> to remember this: I will, automatically.
ok thats fine for me
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 >
> > > > > I'm not sure what kind of answer you expect.
> > > > > I'll try one: the information I could find, follows.
> > > > > On the right side of the 'family':
> > > > > 42Sc (EC) 42Ca (681 milliseconds)
> > > > > 43Sc (EC) 43Ca (3.9 hours)
> > > > > 44Sc (EC) 44Ca (3.7 hours)
> > > > > On the left side of the 'family':
> > > > > 38Cl (beta-) 38Ar (37.2 minutes)
> > > > > 40Cl (beta-) 40Ar (1.35 minutes)
> > > > > Obviously, all listed isotopes of Scandium
> > > > > and Chlorine are artificial ones; meanwhile,
> > > > > all decay products (Ca or Ar) are stable isotopes.
> > > > as you sayed
> > > > all of them are artifficial made so ....?
> > > > does that mean nothing to you ???!!!
> > > > it is no way the real Ar K and Ca
> > > > it is ......... *imposters*
> > > > i think that the fact that you noted that all of them are
> > artifficial
> > > > is actually a good point rather to my first claim !!
>
> Glad for you.
you youself say that all those isotps around
Ar K and Ca are artificial and shert life
and you dont knoe what is thier *orrigine*
ie you dont know the complete scenario in which they were
born
Cl for instanc eis knoen to have just 2 stable issotops
35 and 37
so
may be those ones that you quopted are just
impostres of Cl while actually their orrigine
is from Ar ??
ans similarily about the Sc artifical ones
that migh tbe origined from Ca and not from Sc??
iow
if you are not sure about the origine of them
youcant say they are the orriginal ones
and the same about the Pt Gold issue
you suggested the Pt 179 or 197 dont remermber
anyway
you dont knowe for sure where from they are so ....
speculations
and it could be not the real Au that cameout of it
just a name of Gold
in a similar way
Mike broght the news that some  lead isbeta decaying!
that as well is not a well suported data
because it migh be jst imputities of the lead
from its past history
that experimwent has to be *reproduced * many times
btw just havea look onmy lead and Bi model
at the end of my abovefile
there is no alpha particles ther that are located
on the edges of the nuc
those edges are the only locations from which it can
decy
i have many examples of it in the rest of my model
tha tyou dont have there
compatible all along with experimental data !!
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>
> > > You use words and phrasings which I find
> > > rather difficult to interpret, most probably
> > > my fault. Could you be so kind to explain
> > > what is your claim in the present case?
> > -------------
> > it is you youself who presented those isotops as *artificial
> > and short life ** so ???
> > can you relate that to the real Ar K Ca family???
> > it is just *artificial isotops * that some human being decided
> > to call them 'Ar K and Ca'
> > it is not the real ones!!
> > and dont you see that this is another confirmation
> > of my prediction???
>
> If you think this is a confirmation of *your* model,
> then why asking me?
ok i will not ask you anymore .......
if you are locked against me apriory.
 As I said, that model, as far as
> I can tell, seems to me fairly incredible.
> Notwithstanding, I passed over this, and even tried
> to help you somehow.
how do you know abou tmy model
did you saw all of it ??????
 and can release
such an iresponsible sweeping declaration!!
it seems very hostile and prejudiced and biased.!
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> So, bottom line, you can't ask me to trust your
> model, inasmuch as I'm not not seeing any
> *soundly* *testable* *evidence*.
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 i don rneed your favours
i can live nicely without it
the same that i dont need your confirmation of the
Superfertz (as i undesstood you suport the Superfertz as well
ie an em wave with one cycle per 100 billion years!!
that you suport -- and my model not right ??
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  > > and keep well
 ps again
are you sure that no one else is blowing behind your back??
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 Thanks again, I feel better now.
 all the bst
Y.Porat
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