Re: Is Ken Seto Genius or Madman?

From: The Ghost In The Machine (ewill_at_sirius.athghost7038suus.net)
Date: 02/18/05 

Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 05:00:10 GMT

In sci.physics, kenseto
<kenseto@erinet.com>
 wrote
on Thu, 17 Feb 2005 19:10:11 GMT
<n_5Rd.44553$i42.32702@fe1.columbus.rr.com>:
>
> "The Ghost In The Machine" <ewill@sirius.athghost7038suus.net> wrote in
> message news:00tee2-qp3.ln1@sirius.athghost7038suus.net...
>> In sci.physics, kenseto
>> <kenseto@erinet.com>
>> wrote
>> on Wed, 16 Feb 2005 21:21:12 GMT
>> <cPOQd.32529$XY5.9484@fe2.columbus.rr.com>:
>> >
>> > "Bjoern Feuerbacher" <feuerbac@thphys.uni-heidelberg.de> wrote in
> message
>> > news:cuvtqq$3q6$3@news.urz.uni-heidelberg.de...
>> >> The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
>> >> > In sci.physics, kenseto
>> >> > <kenseto@erinet.com>
>> >> > wrote
>> >> > on Wed, 16 Feb 2005 14:27:34 GMT
>> >> > <qLIQd.43390$i42.18900@fe1.columbus.rr.com>:
>> >> >
>> >> >>"Bjoern Feuerbacher" <feuerbac@thphys.uni-heidelberg.de> wrote in
>> > message
>> >> >>news:cuv49q$si9$3@news.urz.uni-heidelberg.de...
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>A.S. wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>>Bjoern Feuerbacher wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>>A.S. wrote:
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>kenseto wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>"A.S." <arnoldschrod68@go.com> wrote in message
>> >> >>>>>>>news:1108196351.363959.109670@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>Note to A.S.,
>> >> >>>>>>>Notice none of the runts of the SRians offer a valid reason that
>> >> >>>>>>>could refute my theory.as you requested. :-)
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>Notice that I *did* offer such a reason: Michelson-Morley.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>Instead they all started to attack me!!!
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>Seto, read up on "paranoia".
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>Bjoern, the following are the details of the atomic model
>> >> >>>>version of Ken Seto. If you can debunk it
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>Err, why are you not satisfied with the arguments I already gave?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Because you didn't give any arguement. What you did was hand-waving.
>> >> >>The MMX did not refute my theory.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > MMX can only refute a rigid, stationary luminiferous aether.
>> >>
>> >> And that's essentially what Seto proposes with his "E-matrix".
>> >
>> >
>> > Wrong again. :-)
>> > The MMX as designed cannot refute any aether theory.
>> > The apparatus is moving vertically wrt the defined
>> > horizontal light rays and thus the light path lengths
>> > for all the orientations of the arms remain constant
>> > and thus the null result.
>>
>> Excellent!
>>
>> Now explain Sagnac's effect (which basically places MMX on
>> a giant smoothly rotating platform).
>
> The Sagnac's effect is not the same as the MMX. It detects the effect of the
> absolute motion of the rotating mirrors.

Ah, of course. Now why didn't I think of that? :-P

>>
>> http://www.mathpages.com/rr/s2-07/2-07.htm
>> http://www.wbabin.net/babin/sagnac.htm
>>
>> > The MMX can detect absolute motion if the plane of the light rays is
>> > oriented vertically.
>> > BTW the proposed experiment in the following link will confirm that the
>> > absolute motion on the earth surface is in the vertical direction.
>> > http://www.journaloftheoretics.com/Links/Papers/Seto.pdf
>>
>> For all times of day, latitudes, and times of year?
>
> Yes ...this was explained to you many time. The detected motion is wrt the
> direction of motion of the light rays. The earth surface is moving
> vertically wrt the defined horizontal light rays. time of day, latitudes and
> time of year have no effect on this relationship. Why?? Because the light
> rays are defined as moving horizontally in all experimental locations at all
> time of the year.

OK.

Now put a polarization filter in the lightbeam.

I'll wait.

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