Re: [OT] Isotope decay chains
From: Y.Porat (maporat_at_012.net.il)
Date: 02/28/05
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Date: 27 Feb 2005 21:32:54 -0800
Angelo wrote:
> Y.Porat wrote:
> > Angelo
> > i di da quick research on you just yesterday in Google
> > i was interested how and when you lended to this ng and here is
just
> > one quote:
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> > Angelo Sep 23 2004, 6:17 pm show options
> > > > hi all
> >
> >
> > I have to admit that this post of mine was in part
> > stimulated by reading the recent long debates between
> > Y.Porat and Bjoern Feuerbacher. OTOH, even if I'm a
> > chemist, I've always been attracted by some branches
> > of physics and astronomy (both in an amateurish way,
> > though). For example, I was much interested in
> > constructing electric oscillators (at home, with
> > basical tools as single transistors, inductances,
> > and resistances) and possibly reaching the
> > _lowest frequencies_ attainable with such now outdated
> > and poor means (it was in mid-80s). It was
> > end of quote
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>
> No reply at all to my last one to you, I see.
> There I answered point to point to your
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i didnt use the diredt point to point becauase i started to be
tiered of 'grinding whater.
so i tryes to make it shorter and not because i could not
do it all over again.
> accusations or misunderstandings.
> And you don't care, you skip, and pass
> to other stuff. And this is the 4th time IIRC.
> Nothing to address? Or nothing to say?
> Who is, between us, the one that stick to facts,
> and the one that manage to use politic tactics?
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while we dicussed the Cl rare isotops you failed imho
to realise that there is a different weigh to light evidence
as compaired to more heavy evidence ie
i detected in your claimes the lack of proprtion sense
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>
> > it was trhe first time i noticed you
> > in that landing of you you catually reveal your motivations
> > you aimed your atatck dorectly and personally against me
>
> No, that assumption is false: if you read I was
> interested exactly in extra low frequencies, and that since
> I was just a little more than a child, so to say, i.e. many years
> before that thread.
but that was your first landing (or may be close to the first one)
in this ng ami right?
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>
> > you mentioned there Feuerbacher and dint hide your preference
>
> But I mentioned also you, and in the fisrt place, and,
> obviously, mentioning the two names served as a
> reference to the matter. So, where (and how) you see
> that direct and personal attack against you?
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just let me forget about this guy because it is not good for my
blood prerssure !(:-)
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now you asked what harm you did to me ?
here is one example:
by claiming that the HUP is refuting my model
while you dont have my book in your hands -
you did a harm to me !!!(and if you dont mind fo r the scince cause
as well)
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>
>
>
> > ubtill th emask fel of your face probely unintentionally
> > it became clear that you are absolutely and unconditionaly
> > personaly aimes to abuse me
> > and thtas where the red light litted.
> > anyway
> > since that intention was discovered i got my goal
>
> Sorry to say, but you got the wrong one.
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lets leave it because i am tired of personal mumbling
do you know even in my long day job about 40 years
i could be sort of a bigger boss than i was
(though designing more than 40 brodges is turning you in many aspects
to be sort of a leader of people not to mention my innovations there
as well i always was and am an innovator in my motivations and results)
if i lust wahted to be
i could be more a person who is dealing with personal politics
yet it wwas alwayes that i liked better to deal with my desighning
table
rather with dealing with people bussiness which i secretly despise-
thatis my
specific nature since childhood.
>
> > ie
> > i have no objection to legitimate *bon afide' critisism
>
> That was my intention, indeed.
>
> >
> > once you protect a superfertz idea that is a red light litted
>
> Just a little note. Where's your Fertz argument gone?
not gone it is exactly a nonsense as the superfertz
i tryed Feuerbacher to see how far that idiot is able to go
with his Maxwel equations understanding - i suggested to him :
if once cycle per one year why not one in 100 billion years??
and he swolowed the bait !! and kept on defending it
to this very day!! because his education is
not to admit a mistake to someone who is 'inferiour' to him
(that is may be a remnant of the Nazi education)
now i guess you reaction to whati sayed you will defend him ....
or evade taking a side!! and i dont like it .....
i like honesty before all.
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> Perhaps I smashed it in a few lines of a post?
????????!!!! rediculous !
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> OTOH, I've already said that I can't rememer having
> read about the Superfertz in that huge thread. So I was
> asking you proper references. And still you don't care.
see above and give me some credit for quoting correctly
and reliably.
>
> > 'the man is primarily interested in clan interests'
>
> And all this can only be conceived by a disturbed fantasy.
if you say so ... buit i have other evidence which
i am tired of .... i was not born for those nonsense.
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>
> > anyway
> > since the mask is lift of - i did my job
>
> Yes, the strange job to make a lot of effort in convincing
> yourself about a non-existent problem.
so be it but lets leave it and concentrate on scince.
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>
> > and hope the other readers will be convinced tha this is the
> situation
>
> Find your favorite judges, please.
>
> > and will beable to judge my work more objectively
>
> If you didn't notice, several times I said that I respect
> your work, even if I cant' accept your conclusions, at least,
> as far as you don't bring about testable, tangible evidence.
it is not clear to me which part of it you respect
and on what grounds?? and why? while youi refute it
as 'dead by arival' acording to the HUP!!
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>
> > i have no interest in personal fightings
>
> Are you sure, after all those accusations you made to me?
yes i am sure
no one in history will remember you as a great personal fighter!
is that convincing enogh fo ryou ???
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>
> > my prime interest is only that my work will not be waited thats
all.
> > and try to beleive me it is a sysiphic work,(you sayed you learned
> some
> >
> > greek mythology..) an ungratefull work
>
> Should I say again that understand and respect
> what you've done? And if want you know why
> I can understand and respect, I'll tell the following.
> I pursued my interests in science even before the
> beginning of high school, mainly in chemistry, physics,
> and astronomy, and was trying to read as many books
> as I could find. Time passing, they became unsatisfactory.
> So, nearly every day, when leaving the school at 1.30 pm,
> I used to go to the library in my native city, and stayed
> there at least two hours reading more advanced books
> (my first contact with the one by L. Pauling, besides
> others), instead to go home and have my lunch.
> So, when I was a student at university I soon recognized
> having a team of teachers -- with the due exceptions, say
> 20 per cent -- well below what I was expecting. Thus,
> my training was mostly accomplished by myself,
> especially when passing days (and often nights, too) in
> the university library... Ok, let's not annoy any more.
very nice
it reminds me very much of myself !!!
do you know about the ingrediants of the Greek tragedy???
on basic of them is a bittr clash betwen two sides
*that both of them was right*...... !!!
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>
> > s o no need to make it harder for me unjustifiedly.
>
> I don't want it, and if you think that I've done any
> harm, damage, or what else, well, if you show me
> that, I'll seriously consider how to 'compensate'.
>
> > if one day you change your mind and whant to lend a hand- wellcome.
>
> See above, please.
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all the best
Y.Porat
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