Re: Whats wrong with the theory... The horizon problem!

From: Mark Martin (qed100_at_hotmail.com)
Date: 03/20/05

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    Date: 19 Mar 2005 20:23:13 -0800
    
    

    bipin.gautam@gmail.com wrote:
    > I'm confused about: http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/nocenter.html
    >
    > if everything started with a point mass(big bang)... with no
    obstacles
    > to hinge to move the mass in all direction....... then everything
    > should have a centre from where it was originated. It's like dropping
    a
    > STONE FROM A flying balloon in the middle of a lake....
    > if there is no obstacle the disturbance travells in all direction
    > equally...

    The gist of it is that it's *NOT* like a wave expanding away from a
    single point.

    Have you ever played the old video game called "Asteroids"? The screen
    is filled with lots of drifting asteroids and one small spaceship that
    you have to pilot without crashing into one of the rocks. The thing
    that's relevant about it is that, if an object on the screen drifts
    off, for example, the right edge, it simultaneously drifts back
    onscreen at the left edge. Same goes for objects drifting off any of
    the other three edges; they immediately reappear on the exact opposite
    side, traveling in the same direction. If the way is clear you can fly
    the spaceship across the screen over & over without stopping.

    In modern General Relativistic cosmology the space in the Universe can
    be modeled as being like the screen in the asteroids game. If you
    travel far enough you might conceivably find yourself right back where
    you started, as if you'd just traveled around in a circle. But in
    Big-Bang cosmology the screen of the video game itself started out
    infinitesimally small at some time in the past, and has been expanding
    ever since. In the current era space is large enough to acommodate the
    presence of structures as large as the screen asteroids. It's also
    apparent that, on a large enough scale, the number & sizes of the
    asteroids is approximately the same withing any two arbitrarily chosen
    regions of the screen. Thus, for any two observers who look in any
    direction, the Universe looks essentially the same. There's no center
    to all this in the easily visualisable sense. Any place is as good as
    any other place. You can get from anywhere to anywhere without bumping
    into an edge of the universe. It's a self-contained world.

    Another possible General Relativistic world is simply one in which the
    video game screen started out infinitely large at the inception of the
    Big-Bang, and what's been expanding ever since has simply been the
    space between every given two points in space. But in this scenario
    it's still the same as the previous proposal of a self-contained space.
    In each case, on average everything looks pretty much the same in any
    direction from any location, and the space between every pair of
    locations is expanding.

    In General Relativity the difference between these potential universes
    is largely a matter of the mass-density. A low enough mass density
    allows the Universe to be infinitely large. If the mass-density is
    large enough, the Universe necessarily becomes a finitely sized
    self-contained space.

    -Mark Martin


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