Re: magnetic propeties from spinning electric field

From: Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com (sbharris_at_ix.netcom.com)
Date: 03/24/05


Date: 23 Mar 2005 20:56:50 -0800

The electric field of the electron is said to be caused
by virtual photons.

The magnetic properties is said to be caused by spinning
electrons... But since electrons don't really spin
literally, where do the magnetic properties really
come from??

COMMENT:

I presume something or other "in" the electron is indeed spinning
"literally." A magnetic field in physics is understood to be merely a
relativistic effect (ie, view) of moving charge. If the non-translating
electron is observed to still possess a magnetic field, its charge must
still somehow, or in some way, still be moving. And there's only one
direction for that to happen if the whole thing doesn't move, and
that's round and round. Q.E.D., no pun intended.

There's a certain amount of cognitive dysonance here, of course. With
the proton or neutron, when you bring up the matter of the intrinsic
magnetic field, physicists wave their hands and say "no problem." It's
easily explained by the circular motions of the internal charged
quarks.

But when it comes to leptons, physicists get all mystical, because they
haven't yet posited any internal structure of the things to give this
same kind of explanatory power.
But that's not to say there isn't any such structure. Just that, so
far, the magnetic moment of the leptons is the only evidence for it.
And physicists want some other evidence of scale before they'll commit.

But there's another fascinating fact, and that is that the measured
magnetic moment ratios of electrons and muons stand almost precisely in
ratio of their masses. That cannot be a coincidence (anybody want to
argue that it is?). And yet, as a fact it's hard to explain *except* as
being due to the fact that muons are simply "smaller" or less radially
extended in space than are electrons, by simple virtue of being more
massive and therefore better localized as wave-functions. So this is
fishy.

Now, physicists have also hesitated to connect an electron's magnetic
field with moving charge, because the electron's spin field is too
strong for its charge to cause it relativistic/classically, unless the
electron is *either* much larger than the minimum it has been measured
to be (by scattering), or *else* is spinning much faster than c. Since
this seems a contradiction, it's simply been tabled.

I think some new thinking is required. The time has come to open our
minds, as Oppie once said. Very well. Let us assume there are no
contradictions in nature, and the electron really is smaller than the
mimimal scattering radius for it. Something less than 10^-20 m. Perhaps
the electron is a string or some other simple extended geometrical
object (you pick one). That implies that if its spin magnetic field is
made in the usual relativistic way, that the electron substance spins
faster than c.

And now I want to ask: so what? **Why the hell not**?? As far as I
can see, there's no problem with things going faster than c in physics,
so long as nothing comes of it by virtue of transmitting information,
which is to say that causal effects are forbidden to be transmitted
from "here" to "there" in such a way as to exceed c. But spin doesn't
do that, anymore than supraluminal phase velocities of waves do. So why
not?

Eh?

SBH



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