Re: Can time be separated from space?
From: TomGee (lvlus_at_hotmail.com)
Date: 03/25/05
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Date: 25 Mar 2005 07:40:40 -0800
Alex wrote:
> TomGee wrote: "All visible matter has the property of time. Nothing
we
>
> cannot see has the property of time"
>
> By visible matter do you mean an entity that interacts with some
other
> entity in such a way as to produce a data flow to a measuring
> instrument and hence to an observer (allowing the eye as an
> instrument)?
>
>
I don't mean this to seem to be a curt reply, but by visible matter I
mean simply matter which can be directly observed as compared to matter
which can only be observed indirectly, such as Dark Matter. An entity
such as the Moon, e.g., does not actually interact with our eyes; it is
only the light reflected from it that does that.
>
>
> If you agree, how does the property of time differ from
> the property of spatial length according to this definition - surely
> spatial length is only observed using the same process?
>
>
Good question. Length is a quality, so by strict definition, it is
also a property. Therefore, the length of an object should also depend
on its state of motion just like its time rate depends on it. Thus, I
agree with your conclusion above.
>
>
> If your
> proposal, that time is a property of interacting things in the
> universe, is true then it must also be true of space.
>
>
No, that is not quite my claim. Time is a property of matter and it
passes inversely proportional to an object's state of motion. Objects
do interact with each other, of course, and such interactions can and
do affect each other's states of motion, which in turn changes their
time rates, but time accrues to discrete objects as a function of their
states of motion and not just because things interact with each other.
>
>
> Time certainly exists otherwise the zero component lemma of four
> vectors ("If a 4 vector has a particular one of its four components
> zero in all inertial frames then the entire vector must be zero")
would
> not be true and the double slit experiment in time where an electron
> interferes with its own historical self would not occur.
>
>
The idea that a single photon in the 2-slit experiment interferes with
itself is one explanation for the observed effect. I doubt that is the
reality of the paradox. I think my model offers a better alternative
solution with its explanation of the light creation process, where the
wave of the photon goes through both slits and impacts the screen as
what appears to be a mysterious additional photon, but which is really
just the lightwave "lighting up" another Dark Matter particle as a
photon.
>
>
> You do not
> seem to be denying this, rather you are suggesting that time is
> special, being a property of matter.
>
>
Actually, I suggest in my model, in a somewhat jocular way, that time
has a duality similar to that of light in that time is viewed as a
dimension of the universe and also as a property of time, and the two
views do not conflict. A dimension is a property which defines a
quantity and as such, it is a math construction which exists only in
our minds. But time and space also actually exist in our physical
world, so they are more than just quantities, just like light is more
than just a spectral chart. Light is shown as a range of wavelengths
and time can be shown as a range of time rates as well. Light is
defined as emr having wavelengths of any length and visible to the
human eye at about 4,000 to 7,700 angstroms, and even though time is
not visible to us, it can be shown to have time rates which correspond
to states of motion ranging from near-zero to near-c.
TomGee
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