Re: List of Cranks here

From: Y.Porat (maporat_at_012.net.il)
Date: 03/10/05 

Date: 10 Mar 2005 01:10:38 -0800

phoenix wrote:
> Can we have a complete list of cranks here.
>
> 1. Fusioneer
> 2. Greysky
> 3. newedena
> 4. Y.Porat
> 5. Thomson
> 6. Ken Seto
> 7. TomGee
> 8. Smart Model
> 9. Retic
> 10. John Sefton
> 11. Freddifix (?)
> 12. (who else)
> ----------------------
non cranks

1 Frantz Hymann
2 bjoern feuerbacher
3 Mike varney
4 gregory Hansen
5 Gr-Gr (which is probably Gordon D Pusch)
6 Eric Gisse

etc etc etc (the page is not long anough to incluse them
now
i was reading that one of the cryteria for listing one
t the crank list is:
someone who claimes against physical experimental data
very nice
so lets check it and revise it:
one of your leades here and hero worships is
Frantz Heymann
now Frantz was claiming that there is (or could be)
an EM wave with (listen carefully):
one cycle per ........ one year
if you dont believe me just ask him he is defending
it fearsly.
not to mention Feuerbacher who supots the idea of
(listen carefully anfd try to remeber it for the rest
of your life because the man is a Hydelberg PHD:
(btw by 'definition' a PHd cannot be a crank !!!......)
now afaik and other knows as well
the shrtest em wave ever detected is
lets say not much less than 1 hertz!
that is the experimental data
you can argue that somewaht slower frequancies
were detected but atill ways further away from ! FERTZ.
so i would like to make a vote
why a vote because one of the ways in which a crank is defined
is actually by votes (if not formally than at least practically)
so the vote is among the noncranks heare

1Who is suporting the FERTZ claim and who is againt??

2
the existing paradigma is the 'shell model'for all the elements in the
periodic table
now as known QM didnt go much further
in a *comprehansive solution* much further than the
say .. Iron element
now ther is in the paradigma the pyramid structure
of electrons
so lets take juast randomly the shell with 32
electrons in it.
in order of not to ne a crank
one has to show experimentally that experiemnt can
extract 32 electrons from a heavy element!!

easy fellows we are not done yet!!
as known in experiemntalscince
an experiemnt has to be confirmed not only positively
but *negatively* as well
ie
you have to show that you tryed to extract in the
'32' shell 33 or 34 or 45 and ...... it failed!!!
now can anyone ipck up the challenge
and show that
32 electrons were extracted but while 33 were
tried to be extracted it failed!!
now dear friends
if you dont like to fall into the real crank list
you have to prove the '32 shell electron claime'!!
ps
since i have some of prediction ability
i predict that one of the first mumblers
to jump in will be the diesturbed goon Varney
sp please tak emy advice and bypass him
as a farting dog.

TIA
Y.Porat

-----------------

>
> Ok. Cranks. How many of you have read this book
> "Feynman Lectures on Physics 3 Vol set"??
>
> You guys keep committing very basic mistakes that
> Heymann kept on correcting. It's very frustrating.
> How can you take apart the Standard Model if you
> are not veteran in it?? We know the Standard Model
> is not complete and something can turn it into a subset.
> But to enhance it, we must be adept in the in and
> out of Standard Model so as to be able to change
> it successfully.
>
> So, I recommened cranks to read up some basic textbooks
> such as Feynman's and be familiar with all the concepts
> before spewing horse manure as Heymann love to call it.
> It's getting frustrating to waste time reading rubbish
> every morning.
>
> Phoenix
> (Anti-Crank
> Pro Enhanced Physics)

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