Re: Photons shapeshifting to wave prior to measurement





RP wrote:



bz wrote:

RP <no_mail_no_spam@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in news:3aup5fF6dk5o9U1
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Sam Wormly posted an article recently about single photons being detected for the first time, so I take this as evidence that the authors of that paper were previously of the opinion that it had never been done, eh? I didn't read the paper, but I have no doubt that they're fooling themselves if they believe it.



there have been MANY single photon experiments. I don't know what frequency/wavelength Sam's post might addressed, but as for visible light, it was done long ago.

In fact, one can do the double slit experiment under single photon conditions and interference patterns are still observed[once enough single photons have been collected]

http://www.teachspin.com/products/two_slit/experiments.html
and an interesting, somewhat related site.
http://web.phys.ksu.edu/vqmorig/tutorials/online/wave_part/


Quote:

"A Dramatic Demonstration of the "Essential Quantum Paradox"

The "essential quantum paradox" can be shown dramatically by a simple
experiment. The detector slit is positioned, in turn, at the three
empirically determined positions of the -1 minimum, the central
maximum, and the +1 minimum of the interference pattern, marked in
Figure 4 as P-1, P0, and P+1. Photon count rates are measured for the
slit-blocker set to permit light to pass through only one slit,
through both slits, or through only the other slit.

At the central maximum, going from one to two sits quadruples not
doubles, the count rate. And, contrary to the logic of classical
particles, at either minimum, opening a second slit markedly reduces
the count rate."
_______________________

If this doesn't convince you that it is only transitions in the detector that
are being counted, then I don't know what will.

There is indeed a single wave emitted from an atomic transition event,
but this wave isn't a photon, it is a wave. Granularity of radiation
isn't evidence of photons, it is evidence of discrete waves. One wave
can induce more than one transition, and 100 waves can induce one
transition. It just depends on the pumped state of the detector and
upon the beam intensity.

Richard Perry

Sorry, I was interrupted. To continue with the argument let me just provide the solution according to my model.


When the two slits are opened, the waves interfere constructively at the maximum, i.e. the amplitude is doubled. In wave mechanics however, a doubling of the amplitude means a quadrupling of the energy. Destructive interference is taking place at the minima. The count is thus directly proportional to the wave energy, exactly as I stated in an earlier post. To wit, "the probability of a transition is greater where the energy is greater."

Please bz, yer killin me with this trivial stuff, find me a real challenge. :)

Richard Perry

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