Re: Mathematical & Empirical Equivalence of Teleparallel & GR (was: Einstein was Precisely Backward)

"Ken S. Tucker" <dynamics@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:<1113436966.949619.241370@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>...
> Spiros wrote:
> > "Ken S. Tucker" <dynamics@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:<1113385537.623220.189560@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>...
> > > whopkins@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > > > (So, anyway, Uncle Al, the foregoing means we're on the same page
> > > now.
> > > > Nix the other remarks about equivalence through redefinition of
> the
> > > > right-hand side. It may be possible, still, to effect that, but
> it's
> > > > awkward at best).
> > > >
> > > > If you're going to work out the general case, it helps to return
> to
> > > the
> > > > more basic definitions. If g_{mnp} denotes the components of the
> > > > covariant derivative of the metric: g_{mnp} = D_m g_{np}, and
> T_{mnp}
> > > > the index-lowered components of the torsion, then one can write
> (with
> > > > G_{mnp} denoting the index-lowered components of the connection):
> > > > G_{mnp} + G_{mpn} = d_m g_{np} - g_{mnp}
> > > > G_{mnp} - G_{nmp} = T_{mnp}.
> > > > Then it follows that
> > > > 2G_{mnp} =
> > > > T_{mnp} + d_n g_{mp} - g_{nmp}
> > > > + T_{pnm} - d_p g_{nm} + g_{pnm}
> > > > + T_{pmn} + d_m g_{pn} - g_{mpn}
> > > >
> > > > That's the correct ordering of indices, independent of whether
> the
> > > > metric is symmetric or not.
> > >
> > > Thank's again,
> > > That's a powerful and succint statement,
> > > and is about clear as you can get.
> > >
> > > 1)The T_{mnp} depends on a nonsymmetrical
> > > *connection*, but conventionally vanish.
> > >
> > > 2)The g_{mnp} conventionally vanish.
> > >
> > > If I understand Al correctly he's gunning for (2),
> > > (maybe (1) or both), ah, maybe Al could point to
> > > which one. I demo'd you can keep nonsymmetrical
> > > metrics and still retain (1) and (2) above if
> > > that helps.
> > >
> > > Is T_{mnp} supposed to be the sematic torsion?
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Ken S. Tucker
>
> > And if he does it, I may just make a TV show about it.....
> >
> > Simon Huntley
> >
> > Tabitha Productions
>
> Hi Simon
> Saw your post to s.p.research, good stuff.
> Other interesting experiments that have been
> done successfully for General Relativity are
> the Pound-Rebka and the Shapiro experiments.
> Not household words but they taught us about
> the spacetime we all live in.
>
> Regards
> Ken S. Tucker
>
> PS: You could probably make a TV show (XXX+)
> about Uncle Al even if his experiment is null!

We have had good broadcaster feedback from Cannes this week ("more
personal stories please"...blah blah blah), but it's now the long slog
to get $1m or so to make the darn thing.. Surely Al with his chemistry
roots can do a bit old school Base metal to Gold alchemy. It must be
worth it to try and stop the rot of reality TV and bland comedy
formats taking over the World.
.

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